From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Feb 03 09:17:43 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:17:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HDOWE-0006Ht-Bg for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:17:43 -0800 Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HDOW8-0006Hk-Ur for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 09:17:42 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=nyxS/vFHJtdUwOMZoLp9mz1ea6OOFAf5J5C5rzy9NkLLwolMiVYQcsCA4iVXSDxY; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [68.165.174.75] (helo=[10.0.1.2]) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1HDOW7-00052V-Hi for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2007 12:17:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <925d17560702010457p2fcbfe37kc183a74f7b44e82e@mail.gmail.com> References: <4EFD5066-92E6-47F5-AB5B-127D6631CA06@mindspring.com> <925d17560702010457p2fcbfe37kc183a74f7b44e82e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <67B9FEB9-E735-4E74-8266-B7C064EB874B@mindspring.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis From: Cortesi Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: POM: Hold! Stop! Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 09:18:12 -0800 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-ELNK-Trace: c82619e33d1ea3219c7f779228e2f6aeda0071232e20db4def0d7b4039ccc2b666214c16c26c349c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.165.174.75 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -15 X-Spam-Bar: - X-archive-position: 3994 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: dcortesi@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:57 AM, Jorge Llambías wrote: >> >> ko kankla .i lo damba cu rinsa .ei >> >> SUPER: Come! Battle calls! > > That should be {lo nu damba}. {lo damba} is "a fighter". True. What about {lo bradi cu rinsa .ei} "the enemy calls"? {lo jamna} also has x1: actor, same issue as {lo damba}. Is there an abstractor that pulls the "verb" out? {pu'u jamna} == process of (x1 wars on x2) == "war"? {si'o damba} == concept of (x1 fights x2) == "combat"? {zu'o damba} == activity of (x1 fights x2) == "fighting"? DC