From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Feb 28 21:42:08 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMe3M-0003ix-4z for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:42:08 -0800 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HMe3J-0003ik-FM for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:42:07 -0800 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25958CE842 for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: learning lojban Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:32:52 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20070228053052.DB4437DAE@bender.tigertech.net> <511FAF64-FAAB-4F36-9D7B-05F743E6F2DA@umich.edu> <20070301030125.6E2717DC1@bender.tigertech.net> In-Reply-To: <20070301030125.6E2717DC1@bender.tigertech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200703010032.53480.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: -2.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: -21 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4064 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Wednesday 28 February 2007 22:01, Carl Lumma wrote: > I'm also a bit put out at the use of traditional punctuation marks > for something else.  I'm about to try and read about what that > something else is. Lojban isn't the only language that uses punctuation marks differently than English. Greek uses ";" as a question mark, and both Armenian and older conventions of Hebrew use ":" and "." as each other. But those are still punctuation. Some people use question marks in Lojban, either next to the question word or at the end of the clause. I put them at the end of the clause. If I use an abbreviation or symbol in a sentence, I punctuate it with a hyphen: {mi m- 1.51 gi'e kg- 64}. To break a word at the end of a line, I use a comma, since it indicates the absence of a pause. phma