From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 02 03:57:58 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:58:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HN6Oc-0005vb-6a for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:57:58 -0800 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX1+59fmQNvSKdzvt0q4c99RoSCPgm1CbT2A=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HN6OT-0005v4-8Y for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:57:57 -0800 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:57:43 -0500 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007030206574202250 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 06:57:42 -0500 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:57:43 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: learning lojban Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:57:43 -0500 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7BF9@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <20070302062820.1AD667DD1@bender.tigertech.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: learning lojban Thread-Index: AcdclOng+brWBJLXR+mnSqCZJIQnNQALF2FA From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2007 11:57:43.0248 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC2B2D00:01C75CC1] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4075 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Sure. All bridi are sentences. It has articles, prepositions, conjunctions, and pronouns, too (as well as of course, other things, as mentioned, like what might be called "pro-verbs" not to be confused with proverbs ;-)) --gejyspa -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Carl Lumma Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 1:28 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: learning lojban At 11:22 AM 3/1/2007, you wrote: > Well, yes and no. There really aren't nouns and verbs. The same >words function as nouns, verbs, adjective and adverbs. For example, in >English, "blue" is general considered to be an adjective, and "sky" is >generally considered to be a noun. But in the sentence, "The paint >store ran out of sky blue", suddenly sky functionas as an adjective and >blue the noun. The equivalent in lojban is "lo tsani blanu" and "lo >blanu tsani". In tanru sumti, all except the rightmost brivla function >as adjectives, and the last as a noun, and in tanru selbri, all but the >rightmost brivla function as adverbs, and the rightmost as a verb "lo >blanu tsani cu sutra bajra" => "The blue sky runs quickly" "lo tsani >blanu cu bajra sutra" => "The sky blue is runningly fast" . The key >here is that they FUNCTION as certain parts of speech, but can take on >any of those roles, depending on the slot, so the language doesn't have >any fixed nouns, verbs, adjecvtive, or adverbs. > > --gejyspa Does it have sentences? -Carl