From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 02 05:59:04 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HN8Hn-0001S0-Vw for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:59:04 -0800 Received: from mailgw5.gedas.de ([139.1.44.13]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HN8Hf-0001Re-Aa for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Mar 2007 05:59:03 -0800 Received: from mailgw5.gedas.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw5.gedas.de (8.13.5/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l22DwkMa005093 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:58:46 +0100 Received: from GDDEBESAPP004.de.gedas-grp (gddebesapp004.de.gedas-grp [10.242.64.42]) by mailgw5.gedas.de (8.13.5/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l22DwkOn005087 for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:58:46 +0100 Received: from blnsem08.de.gedas-grp ([139.1.84.54]) by GDDEBESAPP004.de.gedas-grp with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:58:46 +0100 Received: by blnsem08.de.gedas-grp with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1Y0GYN4K>; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:58:46 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Newton, Philip" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Nouns and verbs (was: learning lojban) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:58:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2007 13:58:46.0885 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5A23950:01C75CD2] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4077 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: Philip.Newton@gedas-onsite.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners la gejyspa cu cusku di'e > Verbs are action or state-of-being words. And {mlatu} is something like state-of-being-a-cat. > "le mlatu" is the subject of the sentence, *nod* > therefore mlatu is functioning as a noun, not a verb, in that sentence. I'd probably have agreed with you if you'd said that {le mlatu} is functioning as a noun. But not {mlatu} by itself. > And while it is true that you cannot say lai galtu cu .alp. > You CAN say "lai galtu cu me la .alp" Whee, you've turned a "noun" into a "verb". How is that different from turning a "verb" into a "noun" by adding {le}? > commons nouns (which are brivla, when used as such). Combinations of gadri + brivla, I'd say. mu'o mi'e .filip.