From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Mar 19 07:12:28 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTIau-0007gx-Uu for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:12:20 -0700 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX1838/i653W0KYtxRGNYZdUpIH0uRq6axfk=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HTIad-0007gS-AB for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:12:14 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:11:49 -0400 Received: from 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.18]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007031909114909119 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:11:49 -0500 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:11:49 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:11:48 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7C35@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <23dc8c770703190655r2eed9326s6192c6debeebba2b@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? Thread-Index: AcdqLu5Hd7qgrVjeT6CFV3kVZ0sKegAAPyOw From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2007 14:11:49.0199 (UTC) FILETIME=[88F39DF0:01C76A30] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4172 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Because you can string on LE PA....indefinitely: le pa le re le mu danlu cu xunre (1 of the 2 of the 5 animals is red) le ro do = the all-of-you pa le ro do ca morsi => one of you is dead. --gejysoa -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Karl Naylor Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 9:55 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Debug my propaganda? On 19/03/07, Jorge Llambías wrote: > {le ro do} is also a valid sumti without outer quantifier, so > Michael's suggestion also works. How does this work? I'm quite certain {le do} is ungrammatical since {le} requires a selbri, so how does the insertion of {ro} change this?