From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Apr 11 06:40:07 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hbd3N-000596-N6 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:40:06 -0700 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX18aZypnh1ZWgWzQgdCv1D7cZ5yMkQ3syH0=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hbd3H-00058n-Et for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:40:05 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:39:41 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007041109394114552 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:39:41 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:39:41 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what? Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:39:41 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7C8A@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <745242.37942.qm@web88002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what? Thread-Index: Acd8PAn4A5A883K+SRuEli67KXH7MQAAef5Q From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2007 13:39:41.0322 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB592EA0:01C77C3E] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4210 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > Obviously, lack of approval is causing confusion. I looked up names of > countries on Wikipedia. What did I find? > - lo kadnygu'e > - le pongu'e > - la jugygu'e > Which article is the right one? > - Andrew Piekarski "la" would be correct in basically all the cases where you are talking about a country by itself (something like "American policy" or "the Canadian government" on the other hand, would use a different gadri). But don't forget that the last two articles were written by someone who specifically says in their bio page that their knowledge of lojban grammar is incomplete. In any case, going to wikipedia as a final source for anything, not the least of all lojban, is a risky business at best, since it can be touched by anyone (and in lojban, there are, of course, fewer editing eyes than there are for, example, English wikipedia). --gejyspa