From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 12 06:02:25 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HbywS-0001Aa-Kk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:02:25 -0700 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX18SQvoaRXvGWT12jZ3jhBxCkuyk+XljS3U=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HbywO-0001AP-T6 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:02:24 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:02:09 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007041209020916494 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:02:09 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:02:08 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:02:08 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7C91@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <696226.18527.qm@web88009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what? Thread-Index: Acd9AGwXE49w6dK5Tj25Rz3wmXwIrwAAWEQw From: "Turniansky, Michael" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2007 13:02:08.0950 (UTC) FILETIME=[C73E3D60:01C77D02] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4226 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > > I'm comfortable with "le" and "lo" (at least in these specific examples), > but wouldn't "lo" imply this may be one of a number of Canada's? > Yes, it could theoretically be, but luckily for us there is "lo pa kadnygu'e" (the single Canada) in this universe. But on the other hand, if you think of the possibility of alternate universes, each would have a "lo kadnygu'e" which really is _a_ Canada. You don't even have to go that far. In our own world, we have two Koreas, two Congos, two Carolinas, three Americas (North, South, Central), two Indies, formerly two Vietnams and two Germanys and two Pakistans, etc. Each one could be describe with "lo" if there were a brivla that meant that particular country/region/state ("lo dotygu'e" 30 years ago would mean either the FRG or the GDR). --gejsypa