From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Apr 12 08:25:59 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:25:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hc1BN-0001hP-Tu for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:25:58 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.248]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hc1BF-0001hB-I9 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:25:56 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b8so579031ana for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:25:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IwUw84H+g3xk9rvwWcqHmdict+YNlcc897XXPBomsyV+6O+1gT6+2tkwTtccEgnjR4x2xjAo4cRkwPQh8mAzTU9ACHG3mXhAmLGxIkqau22DawnwcKR8QIn702VwALSK+iVDGgUNq/7cMF1QKe6Z3rcb8bm06C4Bkso9hesBxhA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eoFyOFE8/WQgTkCoTI4iSUZzm7bybXPNfHwey1LE4KRl6jY0VlLbaaL41FmSphd/7WGyZMXqUKlhhv310XP0MGjfrm9uVHn67ZoeqK7E/Z8T/ppr6uV2pPq7wENEsrojlgqFmjTtdpwiIZElXMDkplJ8lRud0xosegYsPBX9vhE= Received: by 10.100.94.3 with SMTP id r3mr1444010anb.1176391545676; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.16 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560704120825o56e0a59eoe0d3d22566222e7c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:25:45 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what? In-Reply-To: <56758.66692.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <56758.66692.qm@web88006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: -25 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4230 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 4/12/07, ANDREW PIEKARSKI wrote: > But in the real world, unless I am writing about alternate universes, > I have only one specific Canada in mind - so surely it must be > "le kadnygu'e"? "Can", not "must". > As far as "la kadnygu'e" is concerned, "kadnygu'e" would have to be > a name, but section 4.8 of the CLL says "Names may have almost > any form, but always end in a consonant". So how can it be > acceptable? It's talking about the word-type "name". Both the word-type called "name" (or sometimes "cmene") and the word-type called "brivla" can be used as a name, i.e. both can be articled with {la}. This is certainly confusing, that's why it's better to use "cmevla" for the word type that ends in consonant and "brivla" for the word type that ends in a vowel and is not a cmavo. {la} can be used with either cmevla or brivla. mu'o mi'e xorxes