From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 13 15:28:42 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HcUG1-0006UM-GB for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:28:42 -0700 Received: from web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.82]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HcUFv-0006U9-3k for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:28:40 -0700 Received: (qmail 85049 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Apr 2007 22:28:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=dgweBWS0T0b35KjTgi9c6kxDuHvn1JT1l2VgZCZIzqMZ7P5+ju3RSCjgkc7Ur0qBXjEOUTc5LERAJLyHqrdsfLOHqU1wgHJMycvw9VkfllnwPqpTKVrE0XH2IaE6fhWC6Q/XH0LGTvNdy+qVeE6UjT1gJ+pQACiG588eNeDQyQQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 0d6iR5IVM1mNn06qZvcbh2v1avEpYI4kNOAV8v1PT5SgVIE.i7fvcXimDMSLKxzZb0JbbfD8NCLa.8nUIRRf_75tVWui4Qq0Xe5h6PrtFnVF5mX3og3GLrI.cDOPskk3CJmBAk4dDOcUPt3Mrxp5NdbIKQ-- Received: from [75.2.90.54] by web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:28:27 PDT Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:28:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathaniel Krause Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what? To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <971545.10915.qm@web88007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1792359374-1176503307=:36438" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <24392.36438.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: 6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4241 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-1792359374-1176503307=:36438 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ANDREW PIEKARSKI wrote: What on earth is Dot Side? I can't find the proposal anywhere - only some commentaries about it. - Andrew The so-called Dot Side opposes the orthodox position on the rules for forming and creating a cmevla. According to the orthodox view, no cmevla may contain the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai", unless they are immediately preceded by a consonant. Thus, Germany cannot be called {la doitclant.} and the Dalai Lama cannot be called {la dalailaman.} However, the advantage of the orthodox position is that there is no need to place a pause (dot) in between the words {doi}, {la}, or {lai} and a cmevla. For instance, in the phrase {.i la lojban. mo}, there is no pause inbetween {la} and {lojban.} The so-called Dot Side proposes the opposite rule, that the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai" should be allowed in cmevla, but every cmevla must always be preceded by a dot. Thus one could say {.i la .lojban. mo} or {.i la .doitclant. mo} or {.i la .dalailaman. mo}. Please note that, when a cmevla follows any word besides {doi}, {la}, or {lai}, both sides agree that there must be a pause before the cmevla. For instance, everyone agrees that {be'e .andruv.} and {mi'e .djan.} are correct. mu'o mi'e .sen. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. --0-1792359374-1176503307=:36438 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ANDREW PIEKARSKI <totus@rogers.com> wrote:
What on earth is Dot Side? I can't find the proposal
anywhere - only some commentaries about it.

- Andrew

The so-called Dot Side opposes the orthodox position on the rules for forming and creating a cmevla. According to the orthodox view, no cmevla may contain the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai", unless they are immediately preceded by a consonant. Thus, Germany cannot be called {la doitclant.} and the Dalai Lama cannot be called {la dalailaman.} However, the advantage of the orthodox position is that there is no need to place a pause (dot) in between the words {doi}, {la}, or {lai} and a cmevla. For instance, in the phrase {.i la lojban. mo}, there is no pause inbetween {la} and {lojban.}

The so-called Dot Side proposes the opposite rule, that the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai" should be allowed in cmevla, but every cmevla must always be preceded by a dot. Thus one could say {.i la .lojban. mo} or {.i la .doitclant. mo} or {.i la .dalailaman. mo}.

Please note that, when a cmevla follows any word besides {doi}, {la}, or {lai}, both sides agree that there must be a pause before the cmevla. For instance, everyone agrees that {be'e .andruv.} and {mi'e .djan.} are correct.

mu'o mi'e .sen.

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