From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Apr 13 16:54:37 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HcVbA-0007wo-U5 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:54:37 -0700 Received: from web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.39.218]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HcVb7-0007wh-Ls for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:54:36 -0700 Received: (qmail 40427 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Apr 2007 23:54:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YhFmpaZ3q1hMq9tYYbTkIm2yxPF7JK62geVaCWsCZ6t1aXLRr0/20cPd50uGlRQLJbZ5NUXfx4bhzFXbl9d5xtxC7NyZVOqqCgWJLwH6EfqtNkMl0BIrlNU2mbjbMO77Xcu3X7AakggHj8qIH23nZyUkbmMKQ6fpVkWTZ19/TYU=; X-YMail-OSG: 2pFMIH8VM1kV8eHbFYJOdSbpqjJMDZGQPGDb1jHptpj.PkuzhrGtxv1ZIHlrlJxp.NnET4bmlQ-- Received: from [74.96.97.233] by web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:54:24 EDT Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:54:24 -0400 (EDT) From: ANDREW PIEKARSKI Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Now what? To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <24392.36438.qm@web56403.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <426987.29483.qm@web88013.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: -6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4242 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: totus@rogers.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I understand....I think...trouble is, neither "Lojban for Beginners" nor the Reference Grammar even mention cmevla. In what way are cmevla different from cmene? - Andrew --- Nathaniel Krause wrote: > ANDREW PIEKARSKI wrote: What on > earth is Dot Side? I can't find the proposal > anywhere - only some commentaries about it. > > - Andrew > > The so-called Dot Side opposes the orthodox position > on the rules for forming and creating a cmevla. > According to the orthodox view, no cmevla may > contain the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai", unless > they are immediately preceded by a consonant. Thus, > Germany cannot be called {la doitclant.} and the > Dalai Lama cannot be called {la dalailaman.} > However, the advantage of the orthodox position is > that there is no need to place a pause (dot) in > between the words {doi}, {la}, or {lai} and a > cmevla. For instance, in the phrase {.i la lojban. > mo}, there is no pause inbetween {la} and {lojban.} > > The so-called Dot Side proposes the opposite rule, > that the sounds "doi", "la", or "lai" should be > allowed in cmevla, but every cmevla must always be > preceded by a dot. Thus one could say {.i la > .lojban. mo} or {.i la .doitclant. mo} or {.i la > .dalailaman. mo}. > > Please note that, when a cmevla follows any word > besides {doi}, {la}, or {lai}, both sides agree that > there must be a pause before the cmevla. For > instance, everyone agrees that {be'e .andruv.} and > {mi'e .djan.} are correct. > > mu'o mi'e .sen. > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.