From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 02 05:39:40 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 02 May 2007 05:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HjE7H-0007dR-83 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 05:39:39 -0700 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX19plXfugJ7PZdsU6v2pKAnSjCBqzK1sYoc=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HjE73-0007d9-Dd for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 02 May 2007 05:39:30 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-1201469 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 2 May 2007 08:39:06 -0400 Received: from 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.18]) by 0015-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007050208385516268 for ; Wed, 02 May 2007 08:38:55 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-ITS-EXBH01.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 2 May 2007 08:38:54 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Cogito ergo sum Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 08:38:55 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7CE5@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: Cogito ergo sum Thread-Index: AceMtfqkO8/pePImRmSkQtdWDgCM6gAAHcLg From: "Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 May 2007 12:38:54.0943 (UTC) FILETIME=[D89CA6F0:01C78CB6] X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Score-Int: -24 X-Spam-Bar: -- X-archive-position: 4444 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners The bo is necessary in this context, because what the grammatical function of .iBAIbo does is link the whole second sentence back to the previous one as a BAI piece. Without it you have two sentences: mi pensi (I think) seni'i mi zasti (entailed by me, something exists == mi zasti se ni'i mi), since ni'i can only take a single sumti place --gejyspa -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of Matt Arnold Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:29 AM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Cogito ergo sum Pierre, can you explain the use of {bo} in this context? -Eppcott On 5/2/07, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 01 May 2007 23:02, Spencer Shepard wrote: > > How would you say "I think, therefore I am" in Lojban? Looking up the > > necessary words, I came up with < > le nu mi zasti [vau] [kei] [ka] [vau]>>. Did I use these constructs > > correctly and with the right words? Is there a simpler way? I also > > tried to include *all* of the optional separators to make sure I am using > > them correctly. > > s/ka/ku/. {ka} is an abstractor, not a terminator. {ka crino} > means "greenness". > > You could also say {mi pensi .iseni'ibo mi zasti}. > > Pierre > > > >