From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun May 13 13:44:31 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 13 May 2007 13:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HnKve-0001Ox-C4 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 13 May 2007 13:44:31 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.174]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HnKva-0001On-68 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 13 May 2007 13:44:29 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so1052651ugm for ; Sun, 13 May 2007 13:44:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:x-face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=X6GZv8rF7qVmHBjhL2JaW69Q6K1xoQmMLN5vvK9CAujCjAqR4L6MqsPCpzud/ORMA/yEoOu6gpzefBZc62OxUB6nfhkRwS4Oc6mXZLJsY8olWCfhL6tf0ieh0sRKpy+xW9Hxw6YSLq+D6rTNhsgicLuttnyjVeqnGnL866qCxyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:x-face:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=Wf+grPj8XkjfKw4AGO/U/ADXMPhgr5aU6sxwWWdX4hByLEtbMhFcA3Ye3jdXu94+2FubxflUHefCR+e/GiMPBpjTpaSRkqj5XR75qar6TgajqHTizmZUD59IM024WTlFVcjXjN5eDAiZPbHE9E4HYkORKfy1fikOQNavd5tMXF4= Received: by 10.67.6.14 with SMTP id j14mr184661ugi.1179089063575; Sun, 13 May 2007 13:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ip204.cab8.ltln.starman.ee ( [82.131.8.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s1sm10106200uge.2007.05.13.13.44.22; Sun, 13 May 2007 13:44:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmo Todurov To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Learn to speak Lojban? Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 23:44:09 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: <1179085266.464769d236db0@ssl0.ovh.net> In-Reply-To: <1179085266.464769d236db0@ssl0.ovh.net> X-Face: (GhLNi3m1lI/db>*YLVK9.^fusNMfm#22PiXI^CLVFAw*Ja0We%kf3|5PdWW/6#d)i8?4@=?utf-8?q?=0A=09Y6=25EZ=5C?=@P7$_WQm`N"mLte)/?OSgTuRqiMPVX^3uw1gSExPsM=s,P?Kv>qX358n>=?utf-8?q?-=27AF=7CLc=0A=09rqroX?=@J<0AF1JR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3291673.I3z2Zg4KTW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200705132344.18115.todurov@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4457 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: todurov@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --nextPart3291673.I3z2Zg4KTW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline =DChel kenal p=E4eval (p=FChap=E4ev 13 mai 2007 10:41 pm) kirjutas=20 m.kornig@sondal.net: > (1) How many people there are approximately who can > actually use Lojban for ORAL communication at > an A1 level or higher? None? 10? 100? Thousands? My wild guess is 20-50. > (2) Is Lojban meant to be spoken (rather than written > or read) at all? Yes. > (3) Can I learn to SPEAK Lojban from the websites > currently provided? Has anyone ever succeeded to do > so? Yes, certainly, Nick did that. But it's way easier if you can learn togethe= r=20 with somebody and in general, practice oral communications. Skype and other= =20 VoIP ways are easy to use and pretty useful for that. > (4) And if the answer to (3) is yes: how many hours > will it approximately take to achieve oral A1 > proficiency in Lojban? Depends entirely on you. I was a slow learner, I have been interested in=20 Lojban since winter 2004/2005. --nextPart3291673.I3z2Zg4KTW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGR3iiA5n1b8XPrFQRArq5AJ4kZAfrXWkEVkL+/8OyR3L67D89eQCcCK5V 0SBRim+CDehQ9d4sGDZlog4= =mm8R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3291673.I3z2Zg4KTW--