From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 18 06:38:09 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 May 2007 06:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp2eb-0008OK-Ak for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:38:00 -0700 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.231]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp2eK-0008Ny-L1 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:37:54 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i30so1601633wxd for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:37:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=QreAlYL+/1KL+0Y9DGfjeGyDSJc2TqkX//+yGgi/WaUzv5YLsy21pK+1nWfOjA7q3mf9Cj7NuN/Bq0q6UmG9omeCcwkLatfNMqEq900kM20gJ1l9DblXTqDyFeStQ2aQiBnpPwsH5O7SR4MtiaMVZz+zPo6tVrm7UuxKUwpkVxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Pfy2aJVEsDq8Zen752C054DXQlaUFTbSBcH0IMp5xPCPkfqBwswTMV1DyThC4X0HWhbOupKC/AnRWAFcQIyR4hCBQfltzOxO6LdPtzWcwdgK0oyNor2NvyX8iYtnDyA2nPPmY5PcwsUbUhrM9lKe5VWOTvpSf/8PWF9jtaVszBM= Received: by 10.70.92.12 with SMTP id p12mr2551630wxb.1179495456885; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.9.19 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 06:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0705180637r7b9fed73x7b6dcf13eb5eb6f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:37:36 +0100 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] leaving a sumti out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30106_15740596.1179495456803" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4496 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_30106_15740596.1179495456803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A sentence from Lojban Reference Grammar Chapter9: la djan. klama le zarci .i la djan. go'i troci Can "la djan" in the second sentence be left out since "go'i" should imply all sumti related to the selbri of the last sentence? Also, can a repeating "ko" be left out, without connecting the selbri with "gi'e"? That is, is ko lebna ta .i dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi instead of ko lebna ta .i ko dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi possible? Or would that "dunda" without "ko" loose the intended imperative sense? ------=_Part_30106_15740596.1179495456803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A sentence from Lojban Reference Grammar Chapter9:

la djan. klama le zarci .i la djan. go'i troci

Can "la djan" in the second sentence be left out since "go'i" should imply all sumti related to the selbri of the last sentence?

Also, can a repeating "ko" be left out, without connecting the selbri with "gi'e"?
That is, is

ko lebna ta .i dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi

instead of

ko lebna ta .i ko dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi

possible? Or would that "dunda" without "ko" loose the intended imperative sense?
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