From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri May 18 09:28:37 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 18 May 2007 09:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp5Jk-0000yh-Jl for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:28:37 -0700 Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.162.238]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hp5Jg-0000yN-GD for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:28:36 -0700 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id x7so1299901nzc for ; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QlFi0zI+O3OrXWTnZDdb9N4H8Zdt1SC/9PY8JaweF/lqvwrtVr46mvmefJIOa0vNzKHK/uoeOBRbYJylUeRkrxAX+Rb++2kxoeCHF8v8XMXbRKGtlyFlDgG4z7sDBEp0DgfqWzyGAiBblgIEfOuy18IuhkNfERhCzQ4bxXTbi0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=DV6mMFZX5w/MDH0mzqkM7PmRgICRGQoOenq+bm/ixyJutyTVkG/LZnKBcRzKqt9AcmyuaLd3NK1x8R17r/NQAyVDUhLVxnf7fVm55iF9epeuROra2HnLeoZU9z6cYz7vAOMcjVSGDOIPVk7zU+o0wzY53CO5TEqSqFV7zOLoayM= Received: by 10.114.15.1 with SMTP id 1mr950988wao.1179505710603; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.109.12 with HTTP; Fri, 18 May 2007 09:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c160705180928n384ca1dbx4ef1d8d02a0a6a92@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 12:28:30 -0400 From: "komfo,amonan" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: leaving a sumti out In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0705180844v32817552mdd45cbc05f2393f1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45904_9883533.1179505710543" References: <2f91285f0705180637r7b9fed73x7b6dcf13eb5eb6f2@mail.gmail.com> <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D3A@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <2f91285f0705180844v32817552mdd45cbc05f2393f1@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2e3d1f70d518f515 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4517 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: komfoamonan@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_45904_9883533.1179505710543 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 5/18/07, Vid Sintef wrote: > > Would ".i le dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi" be equally observative as ".i > dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi"? An observative is a selbri with no stated x1, but there's no brivla in that utterance. It's just a string of three sumti: { .i (le dunda) (lo cnino vanju botpi) (mi) } mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan ------=_Part_45904_9883533.1179505710543 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 5/18/07, Vid Sintef <picos.picos@gmail.com> wrote:
Would ".i le dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi" be equally observative as ".i dunda lo cnino vanju botpi mi"?

An observative is a selbri with no stated x1, but there's no brivla in that utterance. It's just a string of three sumti:
{ .i (le dunda) (lo cnino vanju botpi) (mi) }
mu'o mi'e komfo,amonan
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