From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun May 20 11:22:27 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 20 May 2007 11:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hpq30-0004mP-L0 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 20 May 2007 11:22:27 -0700 Received: from owlserv1.mail.rice.edu ([128.42.58.120]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hpq2x-0004mB-W7 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 20 May 2007 11:22:26 -0700 Received: by owlserv1.mail.rice.edu (Postfix, from userid 20515) id DDD7513875; Sun, 20 May 2007 13:22:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from netscaler1.rice.edu (netscaler1.rice.edu [128.42.205.5]) by webmail.mail.rice.edu (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 20 May 2007 13:22:21 -0500 Message-ID: <1179685341.465091dda984a@webmail.mail.rice.edu> Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 13:22:21 -0500 From: mls1@rice.edu To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: ***SPAM*** Re: distinction between gismu & cmavo References: <2f91285f0705201027w32358e69v3e6093496d67cc5d@mail.gmail.com> <200705202035.30924.todurov@gmail.com> <2f91285f0705201055p656e17b8t9dbed4c1255eabdd@mail.gmail.com> <23dc8c770705201101s878b06did0bf0f672abc853e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <23dc8c770705201101s878b06did0bf0f672abc853e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: 0.7 X-Spam-Score-Int: 7 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4541 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mls1@rice.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Quoting Karl Naylor : > On 20/05/07, Vid Sintef wrote: > > > But why are those cmavos like {mi} listed on the gismu list, then? > > I wondered about that too. The impression I got is that certain cmavo > that have semantic meanings (as opposed to affecting the grammar only) > have been included in the gismu list so that one can search for them > there. However, I could be wrong. If we're lucky we may get an > answer from somebody who knows for sure :) > > In any case, as you probably know, you can recognise a gismu by its > length and consonant/vowel composition: all gismu are of the form > CVCCV or CCVCV, and no non-gismu words are. > So it is not possible for a fu'ivla to "accidentally" have CVCCV or CCVCV?