From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon May 21 06:52:45 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 21 May 2007 06:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq8JP-0005mJ-2V for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 06:52:37 -0700 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.224]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq8Gd-0005kA-AM for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 06:51:28 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id h27so128454wxd for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 06:48:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jpwQ2eC2Q9Rq1QEf0/DhohEaGgj6IDCb71U0j/AyVsy59cycPA6jDIwtzrxwtjXmke+eZlx7sccfEFyyEIaWfbFWqBIMAcGgUB0BVohcjDH5dkPQK+THB0VKsrK1tj5ikAjXM621edJGL5PiXOp27FWsJcY8bQgTPrc5kU1+gck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=k2V2Wtl+gKWJq5+jpZUOFlFiaUAP/vUgH3aZm6KONlYkal/fGcDdhzoBSkAHYjBlMEmTI/ZWpONOok78P6HfYbcTof18spERkwuPMxsRROyGYCecu5yPiHmiEqk2uzN2FJmjG7SGmfFQxJg9WD0oxx6q1jHrwr2gvh+ys3Jke5k= Received: by 10.70.117.3 with SMTP id p3mr7178472wxc.1179755329905; Mon, 21 May 2007 06:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.45.1 with HTTP; Mon, 21 May 2007 06:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:48:49 +0100 From: "james riley" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: A0: the first words In-Reply-To: <1179750886.465191e6b00bf@ssl0.ovh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_52469_10801048.1179755329801" References: <1179750886.465191e6b00bf@ssl0.ovh.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4571 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jimr1603@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_52469_10801048.1179755329801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I can try to fill in some of the gaps. neighbour is jbixa'u What is your name could be ma do cmene or ma cmene do or do se cmene ma depending on the taste of the person asking. yes is go'i (repeat last bridi) If okay is in the sense of feelings then an attitudinal should cover it. Really depends on the situation, but something + cu'i might give the meaning. If it is "okay, I will do that task" then you want vi'o. I think I'll leave "I'd love to" to someone more qualified, or someone who knows the other languages to get a good meaning. No would be na go'i (not last bridi). cumki is nearest to maybe I can get. ki'e or ki'e do are thanks or thankyou respectively. e'o is please (remembering to use ko instead of do). je'e doubles up as "roger" and "you're welcome". mi na jimpe is I don't understand. (I've used this one a bit). .u'u is repentance, .uudai is pity with empathy. fi'i is welcome (scattered all over my room in samxarmuj). I'm not touching "good luck". I think that would be like "good night", still being worked on. In fact, 6.4 is a bit strange in all. And the rest get a bit stranger. Some need proper sentences really, which requires a bit more time than I can put in atm. mu'o mi'e cmacis On 21/05/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I've completed a list of words that I reckon most > important for a beginner to learn (no matter the > target language). Please find this list (some 150 > words and phrases) in the attached HTML file. > > I would appreciate if someone could check the > Lojban equivalents I've come up with. There are > also a few words that I have not been able > to translate into Lojban myself: for instance > the words "neighbo(u)r", "later", "today" and > "straight ahead". Any help with these is very > welcome, too. > > By the way, this list of "first words" contains > columns for German and French, too. So you may > even learn some basic vocabulary in these two > languages ;-) > > Right now, this list is part of my personal learning > process. But I plan to create an e-learning tool for > beginners from it. And I would like this to feature > sound. So that learners can actually listen to > these words online... This might take a few months. > > What do you think about this project? > Has anyone ever attempted something similar here? > Or would like to share his/her experience? > > Cheers, Martin > ------=_Part_52469_10801048.1179755329801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I can try to fill in some of the gaps.
neighbour is jbixa'u
What is your name could be ma do cmene or ma cmene do or do se cmene ma depending on the taste of the person asking.
yes is go'i (repeat last bridi)
If okay is in the sense of feelings then an attitudinal should cover it. Really depends on the situation, but something + cu'i might give the meaning. If it is "okay, I will do that task" then you want vi'o.
I think I'll leave "I'd love to" to someone more qualified, or someone who knows the other languages to get a good meaning.
No would be na go'i (not last bridi).
cumki is nearest to maybe I can get.

ki'e or ki'e do are thanks or thankyou respectively.
e'o is please (remembering to use ko instead of do).
je'e doubles up as "roger" and "you're welcome".

mi na jimpe is I don't understand. (I've used this one a bit).
.u'u is repentance, .uudai is pity with empathy.
fi'i is welcome (scattered all over my room in samxarmuj).

I'm not touching "good luck". I think that would be like "good night", still being worked on. In fact, 6.4 is a bit strange in all.
And the rest get a bit stranger. Some need proper sentences really, which requires a bit more time than I can put in atm.

mu'o mi'e cmacis
On 21/05/07, m.kornig@sondal.net <m.kornig@sondal.net> wrote:
Hi everybody,

I've completed a list of words that I reckon most
important for a beginner to learn (no matter the
target language). Please find this list (some 150
words and phrases) in the attached HTML file.

I would appreciate if someone could check the
Lojban equivalents I've come up with. There are
also a few words that I have not been able
to translate into Lojban myself: for instance
the words "neighbo(u)r", "later", "today" and
"straight ahead". Any help with these is very
welcome, too.

By the way, this list of "first words" contains
columns for German and French, too. So you may
even learn some basic vocabulary in these two
languages ;-)

Right now, this list is part of my personal learning
process. But I plan to create an e-learning tool for
beginners from it. And I would like this to feature
sound. So that learners can actually listen to
these words online... This might take a few months.

What do you think about this project?
Has anyone ever attempted something similar here?
Or would like to share his/her experience?

Cheers, Martin

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