From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 23 05:46:18 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 May 2007 05:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqqED-0007JB-CX for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 05:46:12 -0700 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.239]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqqE5-0007Iz-CI for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 05:46:06 -0700 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id t11so158790wxc for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 05:45:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JKaZMM4wfKVnDrYWKpvYHvxQqTFiSJLa2L82suUVX84WjFU510aqAdnEx/LnNNRJcWZTS7fh4T4PWN2upK85BgCEwddpJa+xDRpOjK21rsnk/HfSlEnJP/9cWUzEm1XWbfZ9sITiukBiU6AKgeG5v5ZnizfuTbOWHR3b/jK8wJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hefK8tsDWtZdbNlkQ5fUJUbHy+JJV837rlqG5Fpv72HFU+UT8nUNMYsuE4rvwSKQuyiiKZkAhx1W8YdxntUz21zC5//lQikgv9ShcxFphgvW/PA0wfmOZZJmhhp/nKQARcoOcr/VdzQyIstDODw6c4NSNs2hUK1qyy+MVjbjZ6M= Received: by 10.70.89.1 with SMTP id m1mr1010008wxb.1179924359713; Wed, 23 May 2007 05:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.9.19 with HTTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 05:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0705230545h102beb4q6548c42b932bf299@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:45:59 +0100 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] lojbanization MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_69129_33351351.1179924359387" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4606 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_69129_33351351.1179924359387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline How would you translate "Spiral Dynamics" and "Holon" (concepts related to Ken Wilber's philosophy) in Lojban? {lo sarlu (dynamics)} {(something that is simultaneously a whole and a part)} Also, how would you lojbanize a name beginning with "h", like "Hemingway" or "Hegel"? Is it ok to use the apostrophe at the beginning of a word? Or must we interpret the sound as "x", risking an even more phonological distortion? ------=_Part_69129_33351351.1179924359387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline How would you translate "Spiral Dynamics" and "Holon" (concepts related to Ken Wilber's philosophy) in Lojban?
{lo sarlu (dynamics)}
{(something that is simultaneously a whole and a part)}

Also, how would you lojbanize a name beginning with "h", like "Hemingway" or "Hegel"? Is it ok to use the apostrophe at the beginning of a word? Or must we interpret the sound as "x", risking an even more phonological distortion?
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