From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 23 08:09:18 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 May 2007 08:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqsSc-0002Dk-Ds for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:09:13 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.240]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqsSQ-0002Cz-QE for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:09:05 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so61859ana for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:08:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gVzHR8npvdANI6JIKC5nSV/0wtf1Q+13Yxv5a8jA6b6f1RdKTWzynCdGnxKNAbPwV6Ga40YMrCZcTajfGJrsFOdDafh9ww4FggTIFKI6Ji+Rguzc5acUKHHrGLNs4GE/9qMEx8p9YWObJHlfMycM+9Y2ZG6vORLSA+TAFe1tLzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=C+Kc1dQOaqbMTNsZ82ZdCYUf6cjGSpNE0V2cGLmQcfhBZYuOkGVgsfmubGw/QHYRY+fSEoutvSlM+b3HABVb5CTSRcW+GfyuDgAcuQtRTRkaf3G53I4llkzvOKeRzjg8OGgjE4pn6SXkfLJTxZUlwcjHKCm/BA5w6Hm931JtN6k= Received: by 10.100.247.11 with SMTP id u11mr503409anh.1179932929615; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.9.19 with HTTP; Wed, 23 May 2007 08:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2f91285f0705230808k2671f716q8fad804e08f0d9cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 16:08:49 +0100 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: lojbanization In-Reply-To: <537d06d00705230748m3663c21cyd795cb06767bbedd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_70249_1555232.1179932929257" References: <2f91285f0705230545h102beb4q6548c42b932bf299@mail.gmail.com> <537d06d00705230748m3663c21cyd795cb06767bbedd@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4611 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_70249_1555232.1179932929257 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > I'm curious why you feel the need to express those concepts in Lojban. > When I started learning French, I didn't want to know how to say > "dialectical materialism", I wanted to know how to say "I am going to > the shop to buy some bread". > > What would you do with the translations once you had them? Maybe Vid was thinking he could elaborate those concepts more unambiguously in Lojban than in English. Haven't some of the features of the language been thinking/writing/speaking clearly/creatively/scientifically? Vid ------=_Part_70249_1555232.1179932929257 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm curious why you feel the need to express those concepts in Lojban.
When I started learning French, I didn't want to know how to say
"dialectical materialism", I wanted to know how to say "I am going to
the shop to buy some bread".

What would you do with the translations once you had them?

Maybe Vid was thinking he could elaborate those concepts more unambiguously in Lojban than in English.
Haven't some of the features of the language been thinking/writing/speaking clearly/creatively/scientifically?


Vid

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