From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue May 29 14:23:23 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 29 May 2007 14:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht9A1-0004OX-Ni for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:23:23 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht99t-0004ON-Gx for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:23:20 -0700 Received: (qmail 24298 invoked by uid 503); 29 May 2007 21:20:12 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 29 May 2007 21:20:12 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail236.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 May 2007 21:20:12 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 May 2007 21:23:01 -0000 Received: from 219.45-225-89.dsl.completel.net (219.45-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.45.219]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 23:23:01 +0200 Message-ID: <1180473781.465c99b5726a0@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 23:23:01 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: My First Lojban Words 1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.45.219 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: 6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4778 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon Vid Sintef : > > There is also another mechanism: > > > > Learners don't learn all words in a given textbook (or e-learning > > tool) equally well. Consciously or unconsciously they "pick" > > certain words of interest for them and learn them faster than > > others. > > > There is not much you (as the author of a textbook) can do about it. > > > > Sorry, I don't understand what your reply is for. > "mechanism"? It's not a reply, rather a remark... > If I *know* that some words are uninteresting, I would replace them with > something that seem to be more interesting. I agree that a list which > includes e.g. "fabaceous", which is not terribly exciting & popular, won't > do much harm. But if I were the author, I would have replaced it with > something like "face". Sure. > > Yes, by "my" I actually refer to myself. > > It's my personal selection. The selection is not "objective" in > > any way. In particular it's not the result of a public vote > > or something. Even though some other people (like you, Vid) have > > participated in the selecting words I won't dare to claim > > objectiveness. > > Why do you want your My First Lojban Words to be studied by general Lojban > beginners? I don't want to "force" anybody to learn my way. I want to share and to offer. But for me there are other motivations, too. For example, putting such a list together is a good way for me to learn Lojban. And but setting up an e-learning tool I hope to learn how to teach languages better. > If I were a total beginner, I would've liked to learn words of objective > selection so that I could from the start share more community-oriented > vocabulary/knowledge, more practical things. Others may appreciate guidance and a personal touch (I hope).