From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed May 30 11:14:15 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 30 May 2007 11:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HtSgX-0006FU-UJ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:14:14 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.249]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HtSgJ-00060P-Tm for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:14:12 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so779100ana for ; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SSs5mmQSL8u0HanIGpFbUp22Q/AOY8D0+JcZxJpvIheOqZSPG/dd1MaUmMmPUw+sRIraa7DVKa2PPspfkamC3E/OjFzt2shnH1Btn5/J8iwDV3myTrf9ux+30ZW+SghFKJIBscHJFnMYTIvw4Q5nXoMVX8NSJ8dumpnhmKRCWW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kP7/sb8ZiUAFCLUbUAA10KFjmUq4Hu6/KjoM4Ipj/uArbMvEhZQoGVSYjYsnyWGUI59nwtbHQPOBnwNLsVVMhlyUsBSrCdAn8lLb1Y1UGiss8Up8odDiVTd32XvhjSMRTkjni/PbjP1JhAdtgd7WD7iHsmKSY+EmTjEye0GbaTQ= Received: by 10.100.171.16 with SMTP id t16mr6253686ane.1180548827866; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.12 with HTTP; Wed, 30 May 2007 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560705301113sfe85c7cyc8d93c8daeb09a3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:13:47 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: onamatopoeia in lojban In-Reply-To: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D5A@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7D5A@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4789 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 5/30/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] wrote: > > but what if I > wanted it inside an utterance, like, "The dog says, 'Arf!, I want some > meat.'"? Would I have to say the extremely clunky: le gerku cu cusku lu zoi > gy arf gy .i mi djica tu'a lo rectu li'u ? Actually, bare cmevla are grammatical at the beginning of a text, so {lu .arf. .i mi djica tu'a lo rectu li'u} is also grammatical. More generally, see: > Also, while I'm on the subject, is there a way to put connectors between FA > pieces? I would have really liked to have said something in the first > sentence like > > (ungramattical) "…. mi tavla fi jabo fo lo lojbau…." (in other words, when I > talk in or about lojban…) That's not grammatical, but you could say {mi tavla bau ja se ra'a lo lojbau}. mu'o mi'e xorxes