From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 04 09:56:44 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvFrH-0005p8-Jj for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:56:44 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HvFrD-0005kt-Oj for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:56:42 -0700 Received: (qmail 3642 invoked by uid 503); 4 Jun 2007 16:56:28 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 04 Jun 2007 16:56:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail235.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.59) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2007 16:56:28 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2007 16:56:33 -0000 Received: from 13.96-225-89.dsl.completel.net (13.96-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.96.13]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:56:33 +0200 Message-ID: <1180976193.4664444158f8a@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:56:33 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: mp3 files: can you help? References: <1180908797.46633cfd69599@ssl0.ovh.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.96.13 X-Spam-Score: 0.6 X-Spam-Score-Int: 6 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 4858 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon Matt Arnold : > On 6/3/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > > (2a) The length of the vowels are very different. > > Compare for instance Hans' "mu" (short) on the > > one hand and Matt's "mu" (long) on the other. > > Hans' "pa" is relatively short, too. > > > > Are the lengths of the five principal vowels > > in numbers meant to be different? Personally, > > I speak all vowels relatively long. But I'm > > only a starter and that may be wrong... > > In Lojban, vowel lengths are not meant to be one way or meant to be > another. These are unintentional differences of dramatic performance, > with no significance. Dramatic performance for numbers like "one", "two", "three"? You must be kidding... Does it make sense to pronounce "pa" and "mu" with a short vowel and the other numers with long vowels? I don't think so. Martin