From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jun 18 10:37:00 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0L9u-0000ye-8J for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:36:59 -0700 Received: from mclmx2.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.32] ident=[U2FsdGVkX18rCQitl7j0U5RCkQSKKwRJMba9ZbhYyaQ=]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0L9q-0000yW-Oh for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:36:57 -0700 Received: from 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.21] [149.8.64.21]) by mclmx2.mail.saic.com id BT-MMP-207659 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:36:37 -0400 Received: from 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com ([10.43.229.22]) by 0015-its-ieg02.mail.saic.com (SMSSMTP 4.0.5.66) with SMTP id M2007061813363709054 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:36:37 -0400 Received: from 0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com ([10.75.0.188]) by 0015-its-exbh02.us.saic.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:36:37 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: consonant doubling? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:36:37 -0400 Message-Id: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7DCF@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <1182187693.4676c0add509b@ssl0.ovh.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [lojban-beginners] Re: consonant doubling? Thread-Index: AcexzlQBXKfZ3C1IR5WEx4zAqPRolwAAN7iA From: "Turniansky, Michael [UNK]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jun 2007 17:36:37.0219 (UTC) FILETIME=[38C5EB30:01C7B1CF] X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5023 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MICHAEL.A.TURNIANSKY@saic.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Chapter 3, sections 6-7 -----Original Message----- From: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org [mailto:lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org] On Behalf Of m.kornig@sondal.net Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 1:28 PM To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: consonant doubling? Selon Jorge Llambías : > Double consonants are disallowed just like voiced-unvoiced clusters, > or "sc", "zj", etc. Oh, I knew about voiced-unvoiced clusters. But I didn't know about {sc} and {zj}. I can pronounce both of them (even stand-alone, i.e. without a vowel). Why would you want to exclude these sounds? Where can I find a complete list of consonants clustes that are prohibited? Or, if the list is very long, the complete set of rules for consonants clusters? Martin