From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jun 24 10:39:14 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I2W3M-0005K8-T7 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:39:14 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I2W3J-0005Ju-5j for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:39:12 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 78so1136549ugn for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UYW7752Hdv2L4O7yBU2INKTp7nkSyM7D3mWG9Y7dj0V5zGOCninTf13wi8L5rbsRSX6bmqXtEC7eWuFF/B1905FgOyPvoDLTxZI+ZV1LVWYuB/rNlH/RTJ0eb36wd+3Zsn87VpbfiAVZEWVHS8oLW1T1iAzGbCapJj0AJIGWNIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uVHVyJG3o2jwjR1i+m+voZSemf4LyjBzYtkaUwGSlXYnxWHWzzmQ0p7Fu65Z3r3K+0iJ7UYe5YjWsdXd2wLQ68VUbtObnpPBgKJI52QiUQZYnEnMgd9jUzrSPXnoUC5UpjlAmZ7Llc6RhSR459RWRnUjxZy/KtoBReMVMKhXfLc= Received: by 10.78.160.2 with SMTP id i2mr2257475hue.1182706745208; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.118.16 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:39:05 -0400 From: "Matt Arnold" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vowel length In-Reply-To: <925d17560706230813w3a5da387h46b0402051e134ce@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <1182600774.467d0e464e77a@ssl0.ovh.net> <925d17560706230813w3a5da387h46b0402051e134ce@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5131 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners When you make a new recording of a different word with the same vowel, make it a different length than the length you gave that vowel before. If you keep mixing it up so that you never have consistency in one length for a vowel, the learners will not be taught that vowel is supposed to have any particular length. This is a language in which vowel length is up to each individual person. -Eppcott On 6/23/07, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 6/23/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > > > Vowel lengths are very important in some languages, > > e.g. in German. Now I wonder: > > > > (1) Is it important in Lojban, too? > > Not at all. > > > (2) And even if it were not *very* important, would it be > > appropiate to habe arbitrarily different vowel lengths > > on an e-learning site? > > I don't think it's a problem. > > > (3) Maybe all vowels should be relatively short in Lojban? > > > > (4) Or at least the vowel of the stressed syllable? > > > > (5) Or may be the other way round, i.e. long vowels in the > > stressed syllable? > > If I had to choose, I'd say (5), but it is not necessary. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > >