From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jun 24 11:17:11 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I2We6-0006HE-O7 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:17:11 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I2We3-0006H5-QJ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:17:10 -0700 Received: (qmail 17088 invoked by uid 503); 24 Jun 2007 18:17:28 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 24 Jun 2007 18:17:28 -0000 Received: from gw2.ovh.net (HELO mail14.ha.ovh.net) (213.251.189.202) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2007 18:17:28 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 24 Jun 2007 18:17:04 -0000 Received: from 232.49-225-89.dsl.completel.net (232.49-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.49.232]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:17:04 +0200 Message-ID: <1182709024.467eb52062c9c@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:17:04 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: vowel length References: <1182600774.467d0e464e77a@ssl0.ovh.net> <925d17560706230813w3a5da387h46b0402051e134ce@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.49.232 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 X-Spam-Score-Int: 3 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5134 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon Matt Arnold : > When you make a new recording of a different word with the same vowel, > make it a different length than the length you gave that vowel before. > If you keep mixing it up so that you never have consistency in one > length for a vowel, the learners will not be taught that vowel is > supposed to have any particular length. Or some learners may get confused... I'd like to avoid confusion as far as possible. It's technically easier for me (and also better from a pedagogical point of view, I think) to stick to one pronunciation. This way the learner won't be confused and he won't learn anything wrong either. Remember it's a beginners' course! Martin