From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 26 13:27:46 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3HdZ-0008S5-4X for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:27:45 -0700 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.241]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3HdW-0008Rv-Nj for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:27:44 -0700 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b21so488317ana for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:27:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r6E7BjRBOemMpGp5yBKORIwFy4zJ95I+iAQdNZhRRMpk4rtfXFk+/xe37hTYyD+vM1D7IbMgzAzm2Zlc5u2jaQ8QmfU8aK3zTxTej8Urvrp1A8DxhAPuITfC7hR93L8vzZ1MBMiXniUjBjZEfzacPHF7t01l7uE7LpujgKt8wzo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DM9BXROrypupWBfK5gngXMOF4nX83uHwpTmTQTNgcpNbLGkbT/5fmH6umFCre2QauuhoLQzYsuCuL2V/34sqokt07M+ju3XlIaIW4jZFa33EaId3YrJWvxQa/McQGVbJqJx+v5BXfVmI4U3vbbh/HnsfffvopT3ZF1BAUYMlpB8= Received: by 10.100.93.5 with SMTP id q5mr4050905anb.1182889652791; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.42.17 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560706261327m7b317845w3eb2e70f190d068a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:27:32 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: I'm... My name's... In-Reply-To: <1182888260.46817144bc735@ssl0.ovh.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1182798606.4680130e60899@ssl0.ovh.net> <200706260034.11084.phma@phma.optus.nu> <1182888260.46817144bc735@ssl0.ovh.net> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5157 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 6/26/07, m.kornig@sondal.net wrote: > > So it's {mi'e tim} (no article) and {mi'e la > djein. e la tim} (articles needed in front of both > names)? Yes, those are both valid, and so is {mi'e la tim}. {mi'e}, and all other members of selma'o COI, can be followed by: (1) a cmevla or series of cmevla: {mi'e tim}, {mi'e tim tam tum}, etc. (2) a selbri: {mi'e pendo}, {mi'e pendo be do}, etc. (3) a sumti (including connected sumti): {mi'e la tim}, {mi'e la tim e la djein}, {mi'e le klama}, {mi'e mi}, {mi'e da}, {mi'e zo mi'e}, {mi'e lu dei jufra li'u}, etc. (4) the terminator {do'u}: {mi'e do'u}. In addition, relative clauses can be inserted before or after the cmevla or selbri (a sumti already allows for relative clauses). mu'o mi'e xorxes