From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jun 28 09:03:14 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3wSe-0000Di-OD for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:03:14 -0700 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1I3wSY-0000D7-Po for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:03:11 -0700 Received: from [91.32.55.60] (helo=[192.168.178.21]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1I3wSO1w30-0006OD; Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4683DBB3.6080804@online.de> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:59 +0200 From: Klaus Schmirler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de-AT; rv:1.8.1.2pre) Gecko/20070111 SeaMonkey/1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: la References: <1189A858F8918F43BE3F9C7603C73FB4031E7E17@0456-its-exmp01.us.saic.com> <925d17560706280739t5ea5227cif8ea47f8ef1ac5eb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560706280739t5ea5227cif8ea47f8ef1ac5eb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18OWCThBhAO0QxDyuqINWxfJvvNNCdI+CHwih/ TQOHbz5VYzlxzcvGhmfPJiH94/BuH+KKp5iv3eP0aaqmF4/Uh0 S9EhW1Nb5nzmHSVTXoi3A== X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5177 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: KSchmir@online.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Jorge Llambías schrieb: > On 6/28/07, Turniansky, Michael [UNK] > wrote: >> >> In answer to your P.S.... well, you can certainly call yourself that, >> but it would imply a derivation of "a corporate coldness". > > Or "corporate cool" :) > > I wouldn't say {kaglek} really implies that, that's just one of the many > suggestive readings it can have. For example, the name {bancus} > suggests to me both "bancu+s" and "ban+cus". There are no rules > for constructing cmevla out of other elements of the language, it just > has to end in a consonant and respect the phonological rules, but > there are no compositional rules. Lojbab once mentioned that they > gave their daughter the name "Katrina" because it suggests {ka trina}. > Lojbanized as {katrinas} or {katrin} the suggestion will still be there, > though in the latter case there is also the kat+rin reading. > >> What you are looking for is kamgek or kamglek > > Those would be open to fewer suggestions than kaglek, yes, but it is > not as if kaglek must necessarily be read as the combination kag+lek. > Perhaps kaglek might be preferred just because one thinks it sounds > better. wouldn't that be a case for the comma? I don't remember ever having seen between consonants, though. What's more, I think it wouldn't be audible in the absence of phonological hints about whether we're dealing with an open or closed syllable. So it's no good for the playground - gotta teach those children how to spell before you tell your name :O) klaus klaus