From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Jul 29 05:32:57 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IF7x9-0004qa-96 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:32:56 -0700 Received: from 25.mail-out.ovh.net ([213.186.37.103]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IF7wz-0004qS-Cy for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:32:53 -0700 Received: (qmail 32711 invoked by uid 503); 29 Jul 2007 12:33:04 -0000 Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 29 Jul 2007 12:33:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail19.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.59) by 25.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Jul 2007 12:33:04 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 29 Jul 2007 12:32:18 -0000 Received: from 215.88-225-89.dsl.completel.net (215.88-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.88.215]) by ssl0.ovh.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:32:18 +0200 Message-ID: <1185712338.46ac88d24f207@ssl0.ovh.net> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:32:18 +0200 From: m.kornig@sondal.net To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Firefox Add-on: Lojban Popup Dictionary References: <2f91285f0707281957s4cda109ep1666a9ea43b683a0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0707281957s4cda109ep1666a9ea43b683a0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 89.225.88.215 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5265 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: m.kornig@sondal.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Selon Vid Sintef : > mi'e vid > > Would it be a hard task to make a program similar to this one: > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3349 > ? > > While I'm nearly getting through the Reference Grammar, I still keep looking > up gismus & lujvos in the lists when I read things provided by the community > (eg. la nicte cadzu). By now I've memorized half of the gismus, from {z****} > to {n****}, except their rafsis; I still need dictionaries. Since most of my > Lojban readings happen on Firefox, I find it would be fantastically useful > if the browser is added an extension specialized for direct Lojban popup > translation (rather than manually tabbing windows and searching for the word > out from the list). Also it might be a nice introductory device for those > Firefox users who have never put their toes in Lojban. > > I'm not a programmer, so I don't know how exactly programs of this kind are > made or how dfficult production of them might be. At least they seem to be > not unpopuplar (there are nearly 90 add-ons listed in the category "Language > Support and Translation"). So, why not one nice Lojban popup dictionary for > Firefox? Well I'm not an expert in Add-Ons. But I guess it would demand some serious work, even if you just wanted it to work for Lojban-English translations. You would need to provide a Lojban-English dictionary (probably in form of a data base) to start with. I don't even know whether such a dictionary/data base exists... The gismu list I know of has a lot strange English phrasings in it and would not be very helpful, I'm afraid. Also, I don't know WHO could do the job. The existing Add-Ons are probably provided by the FireFox company (if this exists?). I doubt that they would bother about a clear minority language such as Lojban. Martin