From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 30 21:52:08 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IFjiJ-00068D-Ra for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:52:08 -0700 Received: from phma.optus.nu ([166.82.175.165] helo=ixazon.dynip.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IFjiH-000683-Al for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:52:07 -0700 Received: from chausie (unknown [192.168.7.4]) by ixazon.dynip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3B9CE900 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:52:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lujvo and Fu'ivla Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:51:58 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200707310051.59542.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5278 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.optus.nu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Monday 30 July 2007 21:05, Velaki@aol.com wrote: > Is it possible to absorb a fu'ivla into a lujvo? Yes, according to the proposals for making fu'ivla rafsi (mine and Jorge's differ somewhat, and the details aren't settled yet). A few examples using my proposal: cange (barn) + glauka (owl) = cagyglauka. me'andi (henna) + skari (color) = me'andyska. skalduna (Basque) + ninmu (woman) = can't do that, skalduna has no rafsi. {mi skaldunyni'u} is one word, {miskaldunyni'u}, meaning something like "woman whose eyes are equal to famous". malgaci (Malagasy) + smani (monkey) != malgacysmani, that's mabla + gapci + smani. So {malgaci} has no rafsi. mikri (micro) + enri (henry) = miky'enri (this wasn't my idea but I agree with it). gurnrtefi (teff) + nanba (bread) = gurnrtefynanba. The y-hyphen is required even though it is not in lujvo made from gismu such as {kafnanba}. Pierre