From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Aug 07 10:59:18 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IITKv-00067e-Gn for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:59:18 -0700 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.187]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IITKq-00067S-LF for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:59:16 -0700 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so421759nfv for ; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EKjWJWB9XFTdVQfuEEiBZFRIOCltvZTKTb6CY69a1Rh/Lr9/zWAbRcpsWYNLcMPlAw4FzMr/XR15iVYw1sG6udE8ewgGp6++v5I9kswfkflS6wL26jldgrsrodlrB+5pBVlM4/QN5OOXiPErT1NYZZAXHeYCXE9bojIBk3Ifviw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZXkRb5G86M2TqNT0kj0xC3S43GjB9Z2L6RKKk3zcKeD3aE4L0Ieqv5eYrTWCNRON0tRPvds3adEZUSxDTuv+Y3omH3C79v26Rzd5bc/irnnHoGY9jZlbRu1FmseA0gN+xzZ7a78Cdy/7xV5AZ93Wv69N+V3nK/0vFXb29MlDeK8= Received: by 10.86.71.1 with SMTP id t1mr5352872fga.1186509549713; Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.27.19 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Aug 2007 10:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560708071059r576aa4e0oc3e074389458d3ac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 14:59:09 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: The Prophet In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0708071041q9a3d267jfeeb3d1d4f78f43e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0708061616s75cbc972p934abc12312313ef@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560708070920h67d9941aq9e4dff05db2771e5@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0708071041q9a3d267jfeeb3d1d4f78f43e@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5306 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 8/7/07, Vid Sintef wrote: > On 8/7/07, Jorge Llambías wrote: > > lo nunynonkansa > > Would {lo zazynonkansa} work too? (The y is not needed there.) I normally prefer the simple {nu} to za'i/pu'u/zu'o/mu'e, since these don't seem to add anything other than the complication of figuring out which is the "correct" one in each case. It is hard to see how {nu} could stand for anything other than {za'i} in the case of {nonkansa}, so what's the point of using the more precise one? If there was a chance that nu could be taken for one of the others, then I suppose using za'i would make sense, but it is very hard to think of examples where more than one of za'i/pu'u/zu'o/mu'e apply so that the distinction is required. mu'o mi'e xorxes