From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Oct 21 07:24:15 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ijbix-00079F-52 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:24:15 -0700 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ijbiu-000790-QU for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:24:14 -0700 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so1584693mue for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:24:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=McHUXbt32Im912nRdVKAz+r5zQ1jxnRvqc4Su20z2pU=; b=qemPEH6SKS4RKA56R73woEfNyTRGOZ6CvNPzd6TSYcxuAr1nfF5XNwifLu9lSKCASsLIyjrQLn7pl1Kfai/Yn9IA9orCT5UHQX+H+V0HWXcgpb1Bk429CINCnQk2KthxwK8Sk1CL4R84WTxGHXGolk980KGwOtjnKqIvHIxHR3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AYlGx3HhzTYkJ41dpsZIVWoFz+p2AR4uh8W2UBpRszjC5at6VSICMpxlruCy6cHKuyv7vaio24g+YItXfySHmKTe3AbBwl8iAGxwsVXZULdZ+ABLrrbl79CMjDPydnUIwXz0Q5sRL7vtgg1vZ9tXPfed+IPO/Jhm8gCwxKvyvVY= Received: by 10.86.95.20 with SMTP id s20mr2715638fgb.1192976645556; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560710210724x5b1c2091s8e1d90b922d86d42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:24:05 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: some questions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2204fa080710200633i681486e4l234f44613140eb5e@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5513 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 10/20/07, Matt Arnold wrote: > On 10/20/07, Jared Angell wrote: > > > Also...isn't keeping track of the place structures for every single word is > > Lojban damn near impossible???? > > Difficult perhaps, for some. But it has been proven to be possible. I would like anyone who claims to have mastered the place structures for every single gismu to tell me what the x3 of {dunku}, {xanka} and {terpa} are. If they can answer correctly four or five tricky questions like that, I might then believe it has been proven. > Most gismu follow a predictable place-structure pattern so they don't > have to all be memorized. There are some regularities, yes, but the number of exceptions is high enough that, at least in my case, the task of mastering place structures becomes indeed damn near impossible. mu'o mi'e xorxes