From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Oct 24 14:07:34 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IknRt-0001VK-80 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:07:33 -0700 Received: from py-out-1112.google.com ([64.233.166.176]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IknRq-0001VC-5Z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:07:32 -0700 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so357174pyi for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:07:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VoKALCArqiSaoO+pm143ybDmj2XBIagC+nw8lRsjXFs=; b=eYyGGz63NfvriRaWsJCabFMNFgpsoXfHiG0e+Jdm15guVHLuzGFyCQN8/4/9hUarT8MBRSBDGmFIUpExRVuz+zaJm2SNNVXJcZqRMGEO68FHWUpjLYdWLgTF2C1KaDHHQFy1jK7vTEj0ldKnYZp+llt0Eejyyid52k3cwwpZcOU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tQfJQ39acPvWls2cI+9geeFkw3t/U3kjM2S0F5Rlp8yTtMUpZT2wAtu/Xr92BUy0gx7nxOBO9au9pXhyOtgy40Vd/o0DmoaF1CK2OWAvWrNulciIzmA6apTqK+7lsJ4GIXq7ICtiV7jFR2fNYIEh7mZqTx9NgR0Qv9gZVkjergk= Received: by 10.65.61.5 with SMTP id o5mr2174166qbk.1193260048348; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.156.11 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <71550650710241407i683613b7s8c296e4750aafbfc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:07:28 +0200 From: "Yoav Nir" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: usefulness In-Reply-To: <2204fa080710240902n551dd1bfga3308b7bcd652b19@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9169_17501464.1193260048346" References: <2204fa080710240614t4b9c184erd7d3acf2ac03ddb5@mail.gmail.com> <2204fa080710240749s63fb9df2s6953fddefe4cefcb@mail.gmail.com> <71550650710240824g5ba8643dre4bc6439806b9e83@mail.gmail.com> <2204fa080710240902n551dd1bfga3308b7bcd652b19@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5576 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_9169_17501464.1193260048346 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Something like that, although I think the bible is more similar to modern Hebrew than Shakespere is to modern English. This is somewhat intentionally so. Ben Yehuda and his followers began from the biblican language and rejected much of the early-CE development of the language that was heavily influenced by Aramaic and Greek. In fact, the 2500-year old bible looks much more familiar than the merely 1600-year-old talmud. It's definitely more familiar than anything written in the British isles 1600 or 2500 years ago. On 10/24/07, Jared Angell wrote: > > My understanding was that my friends did have a hard time reading > ancient Hebrew as much of the grammar is dissimilair. That is just > what I heard from at least half a dozen people, perhaps it is not much > different than modern American English and Elizabethan English??? > > ------=_Part_9169_17501464.1193260048346 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Something like that, although I think the bible is more similar to modern Hebrew than Shakespere is to modern English. This is somewhat intentionally so. Ben Yehuda and his followers began from the biblican language and rejected much of the early-CE development of the language that was heavily influenced by Aramaic and Greek.

In fact, the 2500-year old bible looks much more familiar than the merely 1600-year-old talmud.

It's definitely more familiar than anything written in the British isles 1600 or 2500 years ago.

On 10/24/07, Jared Angell <angell.jared@gmail.com> wrote:
My understanding was that my friends did have a hard time reading
ancient Hebrew as much of the grammar is dissimilair.  That is just
what I heard from at least half a dozen people, perhaps it is not much
different than modern American English and Elizabethan English???

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