From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Oct 24 23:00:17 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IkvlR-0003JS-1T for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:00:17 -0700 Received: from web27709.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.177.243]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IkvlK-0003Hr-PP for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:00:12 -0700 Received: (qmail 97881 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Oct 2007 06:00:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=JVjMyUA4RB1rx3iwuHrDhx/8fTkxZ7TMjcz+IgRTgQ39K1ARzGLJghLHNH274wAuHjXWXTMssLMVv/J3bZewb/HlSBC2zcsLdP4BTk1G7gQIBQ3xz0Iib/itiPqzyathKQKwNAuWY7NJCOb8ieMkcKBVWvsZao9ZaVwb1wbgltY=; X-YMail-OSG: Ja_yC88VM1l2Jvpj5pTW.FyPzGsTW_fRcZ4ku7fsld0__mFoVhAWCj4AFow8evevBEAPhC_2lvJHpfeLiwP0m9LqxPGWvbAHusQ6x7lbj9WQZllw Received: from [130.239.156.94] by web27709.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:00:03 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:00:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Isen hand Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-ID: <821531.97363.qm@web27709.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5600 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: isenhand@yahoo.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners I don’t see lojban as ever replacing natural languages. Its value lie, I think, in becoming an international second language. As such, I would see natural evolution of the language as a disadvantage. ----- Original Message ---- From: Robert LeChevalier To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Sent: Thursday, 25 October, 2007 7:47:44 AM Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome Jared Angell wrote: > "The v and s aren't allowed together; they're a voiced-unvoiced > consonant pair. They must either be separated with a y, or a > different rafsi be selected." > > If Lojban is being allowed to evolve like a natural language than who cares? Someone who values the fact that Lojban is different than natural languages, such as yourself, would be likely to resist evolutionary changes that make it more like natural languages. Since there would be few people learning Lojban if they did not value at least *some* of the differences from other languages, the resistance against naturalizing the language is extremely strong, except where the inherent (and perhaps subconscious) nature of language is capable of overwhelming our desires. lojbab ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html