From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Oct 25 09:55:17 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Il5zI-0002li-Hl for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:55:16 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.175]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Il5z8-0002kO-JV for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:55:15 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so586808uge for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:55:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ch9fn6bo9yfC+GU8iexfPGkXlF1nOVTzYSIeKAjMA2o=; b=az+t/aJ9IkwyLkyqDJtYcHw6LmdcB4oF1jpOSxdt6pZ+lE2jthlKhviO7/z2BhRv84lZxWIo6C6ZEKy1cz5aArJ1vCCDzJMcRC8q5BmoN/BxUNcEQi3MqzIJefK7qb3eHOoCXseRk+xljZbDt1G8y+fMKmsnmAbzaL44zRW3elE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MAKxgYzAqq4T76/6ft7Kfchtuh3bWxXgp9QzroHO0Kwel1HHzjB/F69Y401s9g5wpleuawGLzybyox5weDugXDSOFS9IOZ1PHqdCx0wEN9O9Odmb2vW31UVcZKPMMkhz47eM03oOjNs4EIz7Ei1eZIlpof0sjO2de5b7hTi/uCg= Received: by 10.78.138.6 with SMTP id l6mr1583693hud.1193330907596; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.100.3 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:48:27 +0100 From: "james riley" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: common interests In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_848_26403553.1193330907582" References: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 2 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5622 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jimr1603@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_848_26403553.1193330907582 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Day to day life seems to get talked about a fair bit on #lojban, occasionally slipping to #jbopre when it gets too technical. More often finishing the conversation in #lojban. Games come up often enough. Some don't translate very well, others translate better from other languages than English. For example "I spy" is based around seeing something beginning with a letter (Side note, very often starting with "t" since I come from Yorkshire.) whereas in other countries it is based around seeing an object of a certain colour. The colour version translates much more easily (and much more fun in lojban) than the first letter version. Games of xu questions sometimes come up as well. Various people promote their own lojban project. (/me checks jbobac for the first time in a while since remembering it. .uinai, no speakers on the uni machine. And no new posts. Please people, use jbobac! (jbobac.lojban.org)). Others give reasons why their project is going so slowly. Others whine about other peoples' projects going slowly. Then they give reasons why they can't help that project. It's all fun. Come to think of it, a lot of us have linux in common. I've recieved more useful linux help and troubleshooting in #jbopre than in #debian. Though, when we connect for a voice conversation, unless it is a STWUR, we generally do more fixing of the system than talking. Partially because we don't know what to say, partially because some of us are dependent on ll, partially because there are several cmavo that don't come up in written lojban at all. (si for example. Also, be'o.) mu'o mi'e cmacis On 25/10/2007, Matt Arnold wrote: > > On 10/25/07, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com > wrote: > > In a message dated 10/25/2007 4:23:38 AM Central Daylight Time, > > ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > > > > > Indeed, I suspect that this is one thing that has slowed the development > > of a Lojban community - about the only thing we all have in common is an > > interest in the language. Finding something to talk *about* has always > > been a challenge. > > > > The early speakers of Modern Hebrew had something that they all shared > > in common to talk about; we don't. > > > > lojbab > > > > > > Some things that at least some Lojban speakers like to talk about are: > other > > languages (Klingon and Hebrew come to mind), technology, science, > > mathematics. Very geeky stuff, and we love it. > > > > stevo > > This is true. Philosophy is also among them. Given that these are such > jargon-laden areas, Jaden's plans to work on new vocabulary will > greatly assist us. > > -Eppcott > > > > ------=_Part_848_26403553.1193330907582 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Day to day life seems to get talked about a fair bit on #lojban, occasionally slipping to #jbopre when it gets too technical. More often finishing the conversation in #lojban.
 
Games come up often enough. Some don't translate very well, others translate better from other languages than English. For example "I spy" is based around seeing something beginning with a letter (Side note, very often starting with "t" since I come from Yorkshire.) whereas in other countries it is based around seeing an object of a certain colour. The colour version translates much more easily (and much more fun in lojban) than the first letter version. Games of xu questions sometimes come up as well.
 
Various people promote their own lojban project. (/me checks jbobac for the first time in a while since remembering it. .uinai, no speakers on the uni machine. And no new posts. Please people, use jbobac! ( jbobac.lojban.org)). Others give reasons why their project is going so slowly. Others whine about other peoples' projects going slowly. Then they give reasons why they can't help that project. It's all fun.
 
Come to think of it, a lot of us have linux in common. I've recieved more useful linux help and troubleshooting in #jbopre than in #debian.
 
Though, when we connect for a voice conversation, unless it is a STWUR, we generally do more fixing of the system than talking. Partially because we don't know what to say, partially because some of us are dependent on ll, partially because there are several cmavo that don't come up in written lojban at all. (si for example. Also, be'o.)
 
mu'o mi'e cmacis
 
On 25/10/2007, Matt Arnold <matt.mattarn@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/25/07, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com < MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 10/25/2007 4:23:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
> ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:
>
>
> Indeed, I suspect that this is one thing that has slowed the development
> of a Lojban community - about the only thing we all have in common is an
> interest in the language.  Finding something to talk *about* has always
> been a challenge.
>
> The early speakers of Modern Hebrew had something that they all shared
> in common to talk about; we don't.
>
> lojbab
>
>
> Some things that at least some Lojban speakers like to talk about are: other
> languages (Klingon and Hebrew come to mind), technology, science,
> mathematics.  Very geeky stuff, and we love it.
>
> stevo

This is true. Philosophy is also among them. Given that these are such
jargon-laden areas, Jaden's plans to work on new vocabulary will
greatly assist us.

-Eppcott




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