From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Oct 26 15:16:49 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:16:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IlXU1-0000p8-0v for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:16:49 -0700 Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.128.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IlXTx-0000p0-W9 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:16:48 -0700 Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 19so1688025fkr for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UIQVaSBUxoPTf42zFSMKPRqG+JjSYjpEulIgv0ADxpk=; b=PQT4YdTddBhEe3dELjkVFg6bcRyXH/B15lRxZIh3S4x40FDFFSFIOf44YSR57g+OTBh4HIYjwfQlbmfVHU5XKPiICHSx0hJ2QicR9ugv+TgkYbnXsx9wdpDLaH8Y0mYy+vI7AwbYyi0G8YY15PAr1XWUfAtU7TLVvf/xNdMUm+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ucxzasnWDNsJgW8b/UqPUc7j51Duu4AU0X04YmxBdqkCMyPdl0Mw/cBCQwczDxbZTdgENQjDBSF05wjyj9lpvz05UjreHcu34taxDQc1Yd/mV+zsLtj40fHi/kbhF2fZ0CO4vAhe345AG5/aQom6gZN9vtwlzw5NEVMkdfV2qNo= Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr6584674bud.1193437003685; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.113.2 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2204fa080710261516k203228b3g553585f5a311cf6d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:16:43 -0500 From: "Jared Angell" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome In-Reply-To: <2204fa080710261503ue4df8cbnab58026306087816@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9161_26260027.1193437003682" References: <821531.97363.qm@web27709.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4720DEC4.3040806@lojban.org> <975a94850710251146g2f1cb00eka98d0ec87c02ae3b@mail.gmail.com> <47210CF9.9010906@lojban.org> <975a94850710251510h57f6d0d1ue3d900ca8b7369f9@mail.gmail.com> <4721E54F.7070001@lojban.org> <975a94850710260905u5d0dc9ddw77a85a78aa082c04@mail.gmail.com> <4722415B.2000106@lojban.org> <975a94850710261310y7e2586d4p60cc69af7881a9f8@mail.gmail.com> <2204fa080710261503ue4df8cbnab58026306087816@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5691 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: angell.jared@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_9161_26260027.1193437003682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I just want to pre-empt the reply that I am expecting now. 'Geodesic dome' is not a concept of English which is ambigous and requires many different words in Lojban. This is so because: "A geodesic dome is an almost spherical structure based on a network of struts arranged on great circles (geodesics) lying approximately on the surface of a sphere. The geodesics intersect to form triangular elements that have local triangular rigidity and yet also distribute the stress across the entire structure. The edges of the triangles create "geodesics," great circles of a sphere, to distribute stress across the sphere. (The use of patterns of triangles to approximate either a rougher or smoother shape is also fundamental to computer graphics.)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic_dome A geodesic dome thus means: a dome composed of geodesics. Why can't their be a compound word in Lojban that means geodesic (triangle-circles?) and a root word that means dome??? I'd even settle for a compound word for dome too if it were only composed of two other words. (half-circle-dwelling?) Otherwise Lojban is making a fairly simple concept overly complex I feel. ------=_Part_9161_26260027.1193437003682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I just want to pre-empt the reply that I am expecting now.  'Geodesic dome' is not a concept of English which is ambigous and requires many different words in Lojban.

This is so because: "A geodesic dome is an almost spherical structure based on a network of struts arranged on great circles (geodesics) lying approximately on the surface of a sphere. The geodesics intersect to form triangular elements that have local triangular rigidity and yet also distribute the stress across the entire structure.   The edges of the triangles create "geodesics," great circles of a sphere, to distribute stress across the sphere. (The use of patterns of triangles to approximate either a rougher or smoother shape is also fundamental to computer graphics.)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodesic_dome

A geodesic dome thus means: a dome composed of geodesics.

Why can't their be a compound word in Lojban that means geodesic (triangle-circles?) and a root word that means dome???  I'd even settle for a compound word for dome too if it were only composed of two other words. (half-circle-dwelling?)

Otherwise Lojban is making a fairly simple concept overly complex I feel.
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