From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Oct 27 16:58:29 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IlvXw-00075l-Po for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:58:29 -0700 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IlvXt-000751-T0 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:58:28 -0700 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1103675rvf for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qVsNjfHkHMXksaaKWMSWfjNzZ/V6+i1aMu0ZKF5Sq24=; b=mEem3eoyFpXGiJKFTmJ3BWzjsoGBt4suoA+8TbVVKxsrG3kx4wYNeBoT9NdTChK+cUCPH1lV3MkwR1rmoVuO6dJK+4OAMz0ExbFRPXcAR91/aSIIj5m7hasg6y1e7E/PS9h+5uwGLitk9gxxe9gfjEVtan7z659ZE+EROgQDrCk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Z443rqgXNxKZ9Nt5hqeVWANSl+Xm2hap3Ixo1uCnTI5HzKGxF5nwUPP6fgOMCw21FkqaFHIaG61qK1xeWyFHXHs3muX5jGhnBPYznz8XqAb1Unj7ALVI/dTvOn0C01HtwtLUdEquFLEnOjg7075E6G3u1jgbL3CF/EaiACvvpZg= Received: by 10.142.52.9 with SMTP id z9mr1097431wfz.1193529504278; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.107.8 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <975a94850710271658m5bdfbb23y7a0c7b271ad5acba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:58:24 -0700 From: "Joel Shellman" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <975a94850710270735t210f5212s8d39dd0003c08578@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560710270759i39867469o9ff60e75905c59c0@mail.gmail.com> <2204fa080710270924k2a9b6cbby3b2926a935773b9f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5716 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jshellman@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > rafsi: affix syllable (like a suffix or prefix) This doesn't tell me much of what it's used for. Are rafsi used for any purpose other than lujvo generation? > tanru: metaphoric modifier-phrase interesting, how is it metaphoric? > bridi: sentence made of arguments connected by a relationship I'd be a little concerned about using "sentence" flat out... it's not necessarily the same. In logic terms, a bridi is a predicate, right? So, I could say a "predicate composed of a relationship and its arguments." Oh! Well, yeah, that's what shows up on jbovlaste, so yeah, that works for me. > sumti: an argument in a sentence. I'm going to say "argument to a selbri in a bridi" as that can be stated without qualification, I assume. > selbri: the relationship part of a sentence. Similarly, it's the relationship of a bridi. Bridi takes some extra work, but sumti and selbri can be defined in terms of bridi and so are straightforward, I think. > The way you said it might work better for the way your memory and > understanding work, than for the way mine work. True, we all think a little different. I like the mathematical/logical nature of lojban and will likely lean toward that type of verbage as to me it seems more precise/accurate. Thanks for your input!