From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sun Oct 28 08:56:35 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ImAV9-0004pZ-1N for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:56:35 -0700 Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net ([68.230.240.8]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ImAV6-0004pO-Ub for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:56:34 -0700 Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20071028155627.VMPY3771.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:56:27 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.192.234.183]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id 5rwH1Y00J3y5FKc0000000; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:56:19 -0400 Message-ID: <4724B10B.6080107@lojban.org> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:55:55 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: geodesic dome References: <821531.97363.qm@web27709.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <97f5058c0710261625md4f9d8dm60457d1351b2f025@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560710270830k57e16d76ofe3a90a6ddd669a8@mail.gmail.com> <200710281051.09598.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <200710281051.09598.phma@phma.optus.nu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5721 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: lojbab@lojban.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Pierre Abbat wrote: > Whatever we decide to call a geodesic dome, we need to distinguish it from > other kinds of domes, which may be constructed with geodesics, but in a > different arrangement. Why do we *need* to do so? > A few days ago I watched a video about the > construction of what is now the Cricket Arena. Its greku consists of a ring > of concrete columns, a tension ring, and many great circle arcs which meet at > a compression ring near the top. It is a dome, and it contains of geodesics, > but it is not a geodesic dome. But it may be a rekyboldi'u or whatever word becomes the commonly used word for geodesic dome in Lojban. English may divide the word into domes that Bucky Fuller would call "geodesic domes" and other kinds of domes. Lojban might divide the world into rekyboldi'u and other kinds of boldi'u. If it became critical in some rare instance (a patent translation perhaps) to refer to the specific concept invented by Fuller, as opposed to anything else, then it can be "rekybodi'u pe la bykifrl,r" or some such. Lojban does NOT need to make the same distinctions that other languages make in normal usage. It may need to be able to make such distinctions for possibly rare translation reasons, but those can be both ad hoc and long-winded if necessary, based on Zipfean principles. lojbab