From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Oct 29 07:13:37 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ImVN2-0003e6-Fb for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:13:36 -0700 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ImVN0-0003dx-88 for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:13:36 -0700 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j27so353635elf for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:13:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZLcz6QX6a4YAvhltV1958oPD/cAUeUswUPL04g7a82Y=; b=SBP0PHZdkJKVYy6lI06KjG8PvH5prj7c79PldupdOqBJ0N77gcrnrJNWRmke1sRsB3LsL0MQV6jDWS07qTd4NLNX0PS/kSGZWP+Dc++xAr9giMoQdnU2FJPvDIOlRcTijVyyRuMN7ucyp6dJnluLYiwqj8V9YS6pmwUlIAqEyjM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GfHa5N4VM9KU8hyVkzUiRx948WE+Y8cTyGogp9bKpwOocKJhZY9MVWAJ4CTZT/Tajzw13fokn0eUonoDcAsE36n2rPEtTiHuwDUx/zZKQ0tKgu3u/EteG5nNVe/SuTxEtUx4UJnc0ninhzH9JvpQ1EUJwrKGiBr1CJUkkbef+/8= Received: by 10.142.191.2 with SMTP id o2mr1268399wff.1193667211792; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.107.8 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <975a94850710290713u6a4f1ac3lfa33441440e1522b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:13:31 -0700 From: "Joel Shellman" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Quick Reference Guide for language words In-Reply-To: <925d17560710290530s276be0dfl80e2b4bfcf42739f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <975a94850710270735t210f5212s8d39dd0003c08578@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560710270759i39867469o9ff60e75905c59c0@mail.gmail.com> <2204fa080710270924k2a9b6cbby3b2926a935773b9f@mail.gmail.com> <975a94850710271658m5bdfbb23y7a0c7b271ad5acba@mail.gmail.com> <4724B538.7070800@lojban.org> <975a94850710290008j65ffe239sdf5b6acc9c6dea13@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560710290530s276be0dfl80e2b4bfcf42739f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5736 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jshellman@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 10/29/07, Jorge Llambías wrote: > On 10/29/07, Joel Shellman wrote: > > > > I'm curious... are tanru strict in implying that the set must > > be a subset of the modificand? > > Not at all. For example {cinfo kalte}, "lion hunter" does not imply > that the hunter must be a lion. It might be a person that hunts > lions. This does not mean that "lion hunter" is a metaphor, > of course. lion is the modifier, hunter is the modificand. The question was are tanru strict in implying that the set must be a subset of the *modificand*---so, hunter, in this case.