From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Nov 02 11:51:20 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Io1c0-0001M0-A5 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:51:20 -0700 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Io1by-0001Lm-2z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:51:20 -0700 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so701323uge for ; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:51:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Pd5GhYJkhZ6BkizuNsXVd0tXzyuWO2HXas7kD9uWtn4=; b=kYbjstI8tmNtNXTZIlSADPMPn/1I/oKawtuL7BB5Sl6Vq3RrTIF2CVSbsUNkeqqMb4Eg+84Dhsclw+66BRV7pxcyIb0C69YhTmnDwt/4zMfSoxgJt1R3ve19fHw3mmToCFrQUgdlp/SI0Lqlt6e2HUDlZkqMioG3M75+inCZd+c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GM38eljlVZNPZdAN7AwrWOLoshO30fFN+u1Tw/mOrYhABfaG1vRf9eWfYG9WMPi7/X2gNEMMsyJ+pHZ4il9FWjXPaOD7WvfLPA99Saow2EvjxNrEJluNIlbfmhaqPgf0dzOCSE/4jblvI1KQJu3z3QtDU6iXZuYPn+cAMXvbfho= Received: by 10.66.237.9 with SMTP id k9mr1583921ugh.1194029472843; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:51:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560711021151k2a32864ey19bfadcf3dec6d03@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:51:12 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: curt In-Reply-To: <737b61f30711020958y7b7ad821k1011a80c5027c20e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f30711020958y7b7ad821k1011a80c5027c20e@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5778 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 11/2/07, Chris Capel wrote: > "Curt". Example sentence: > > Didn't you take care of this already? (IM'd to a coworker.) > > Is there an attitudinal (or combination) for this? I suppose "ga'i" > might work, maybe "e'ega'i". Indicating that you're being curt seems to go against the very spirit of being curt, so I would suggest not using any indicator at all. But {ga'i}, {ionai}, {o'onai}, {le'o} all might capture some of the attitudes that could go along with curtness. > And how would the opposite go, to > disclaim curtness? (Over IM, you can't use tone of voice, of course.) > I'd like an attitudinal that mean "I don't know, but"--something like > ".uanai", but not quite, because ".ua" is "discovery", not > "knowledge". And I suppose a simple "ga'inai" or "ga'icu'e" would do > the trick. Here on the other hand you can be as expansive as you want, depending on how much deference you want to show: {ga'inai i'o iosai o'acu'i u'ocu'i le'onai} mu'o mi'e xorxes