From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 21 09:32:39 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5lji-0005xl-SZ for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:32:39 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.191]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5ljd-0005xQ-Qg for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:32:38 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so294014rvf.46 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:32:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2zkQHw+7ixX2XVIVyjmIMBt6guUrfULzzitsUSCQZ2Y=; b=pTRJn0pEo/vaMZqh37EjDxSUkq+dQ8shDm6MV3ZkwaiOMR9rdoQWWlwQN6Na7A/lexLJjC2Pt8rEsdCqooqiVWAaPxbNL/0UjGgrUsnXTk9SbCcyITaX7r2jOiaJP+XCOalECbiHu6qINFpJ2roJXCZh8HgR4NVaoMXeTB//7xs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QyqkdOqV8SOc+rPG7YIicFh/i1iSImUdzVZLVYVvpR4x1NB7fJvUpAf6AgttNL9gT2bsdVScydVdDLZNK4gaKgqKaVnolQZpOn4SS35TntvwB5g3ltBVPRmK1d62pc1Ul1412DXkGhGLm5s+rslt9sGuFTekgoq5dN1WTPFFSQQ= Received: by 10.141.170.10 with SMTP id x10mr896857rvo.139.1198258349424; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.202.21 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:32:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <96f789a60712210932m9347196hc4b02ecc2754d7c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 12:32:29 -0500 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Correction please In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0712210916r77570081mea0ab7ba039858a0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_920_18935523.1198258349379" References: <2f91285f0712210307i4aad2c31jc98c7b95fbb566f0@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712210658o71af36f7j9d3e73813ae6839f@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0712210830s56621eacxa546cf3f3041da09@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712210842w2d9ba10fvf69015b33c13fccc@mail.gmail.com> <2f91285f0712210916r77570081mea0ab7ba039858a0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 15 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_920_18935523.1198258349379 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 21, 2007 12:16 PM, Vid Sintef wrote: > > > What if it's her who characterizes the very property of being a funny > > > person, that is, she is funny in a way that is characteristic to her? > > > How about {ko'a kai ri xajmi prenu}? > > > > > > mu'o mi'e vid > > > > > That still doesn't work the way you want it to. Now it means "She, > > characterizing she, is a funny person." Rememeber that a BAI cmavo like > > "kai" is going to take at most one sumti following it. Let me ask a > > clarifying question, are you are trying to say that she is the > > epitome/embodiment of being a funny person (which is not what you asked > > before ("she is a characteristically funny person)") , or that her brand > of > > humor is quirky, that what might be funny to her might not be funny to > > someone else ("she has an odd sense of humor")? > > > > --gejyspa > > The latter. And I thought the uniqueness of her brand of humor could > be referred to by modifying the bridi {xajmi prenu} with {kai ri} or > {kai}. How about {ko'a sepa'anai xajmi prenu} then? > > mu'o mi'e vid > Hmmm... I would read that as "she, although not being simliar (to something unspecified), is a funny person." That might work for you. If you really want to use a modal, how about ko'a ma'i ko'a xajmi prenu (she, by her standard, is a funny person)? --gejyspa ------=_Part_920_18935523.1198258349379 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On Dec 21, 2007 12:16 PM, Vid Sintef <picos.picos@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What if it's her who characterizes the very property of being a funny
> > person, that is, she is funny in a way that is characteristic to her?
> > How about {ko'a kai ri xajmi prenu}?
> >
> > mu'o mi'e vid
> >
>   That still doesn't work the way you want it to.  Now it means "She,
> characterizing she, is a funny person." Rememeber that a BAI cmavo like
> "kai" is going to take at most one sumti following it.  Let me ask a
> clarifying question, are you are trying to say that she is the
> epitome/embodiment of being a funny person (which is not what you asked
> before ("she is a characteristically funny person)") , or that her brand of
> humor is quirky, that what might be funny to her might not be funny to
> someone else ("she has an odd sense of humor")?
>
>           --gejyspa

The latter. And I thought the uniqueness of her brand of humor could
be referred to by modifying the bridi {xajmi prenu} with {kai ri} or
{kai}. How about {ko'a sepa'anai xajmi prenu} then?

mu'o mi'e vid
   Hmmm... I would read that as "she,  although not being simliar (to something unspecified), is a funny person."  That might work for you.  If you really want to use a modal, how about ko'a ma'i ko'a xajmi prenu (she, by her standard, is a funny person)?

                    --gejyspa



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