From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Dec 25 20:13:18 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:13:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7Nds-0004Ey-B7 for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:13:16 -0800 Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.198.185]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J7Ndk-0004Ed-0g for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:13:13 -0800 Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b22so1646387rvf.46 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:12:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ht7P9fhaYtbp0ArxF4lDGjFND2z7Yz9l1qxD0GFCMQw=; b=QMJSpN5ea0mWDOJhGREJ4Qu7MbwuG8zefXExj+YjNsVOlzhuG3K1rRdUozIYPZa6k5iLwV5YanRvCyCVYex9UQFnQTIm3jnxNJaWrAUxxkIvYcmRGt9MNUxMwXnjso+EATdTzlz1TGOqLuhvOONOUVFKcQH86z7F1sutiCM+9uo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=I7ru56iaJz4dVeO12tyg9AhztJ7Irs+LE14kRnwQMvONGUbPGM1kstq6SQqBgfHR2Jn5RPmcUt80e/PyEk6twhaHjqUX/4xQr473fZuSdahkqccrPDhRstu5hObdFntEJDDF8EBQLQRVA4ju6xQmcxjnR89JauPiyHZi46QCAJw= Received: by 10.140.225.19 with SMTP id x19mr3078201rvg.72.1198642374266; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.147.16 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:12:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <97f5058c0712252012g60c0f362qa057866ea28556b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:12:54 +0800 From: Penguino To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: nitcu le denpa lerfu fi ma In-Reply-To: <20071225195037.f1affe0bd44gssgs@webmail.ixkey.info> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6505_417893.1198642374269" References: <20071225195037.f1affe0bd44gssgs@webmail.ixkey.info> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 31 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: spheniscine@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners ------=_Part_6505_417893.1198642374269 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 26, 2007 11:50 AM, wrote: > It's a minor point, but I try to get the denpabu right. By the way, it's *denpa bu* (pron. *DENpabu*). *denpabu* (pron. *denPAbu*) is an undefined *fu'ivla*. > It occurs to me that "mi'e" must require a pause before the name > unless there's a "doi", is that correct? Correct. *cmevla* require a pause if they follow anything other than *la*, * lai*, *la'i* or *doi*. > > Also, after "zoi" am I correct that a pause is needed after the first > instance of the quote, and both before and after the second, as in: > "zoi gy. something .gy."? > > mu'o mi'e .bret. > > A pause is needed after the first delimiter, and before the second. There's another one after the second *gy.* because it is a letter-word. If a non-letter-word was used then it won't be needed: "zoi zoi. something .zoi" *.a'o di'u sidju mu'o mi'e .djanytyn. * ------=_Part_6505_417893.1198642374269 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Dec 26, 2007 11:50 AM, <mungojelly@ixkey.info> wrote:
It's a minor point, but I try to get the denpabu right.

By the way, it's denpa bu (pron. DENpabu). denpabu (pron. denPAbu) is an undefined fu'ivla.
 
It occurs to me that "mi'e" must require a pause before the name
unless there's a "doi", is that correct?

Correct. cmevla require a pause if they follow anything other than la, lai, la'i or doi.
 

Also, after "zoi" am I correct that a pause is needed after the first
instance of the quote, and both before and after the second, as in:
"zoi gy. something .gy."?

mu'o mi'e .bret.


A pause is needed after the first delimiter, and before the second. There's another one after the second gy. because it is a letter-word. If a non-letter-word was used then it won't be needed: "zoi zoi. something .zoi"

.a'o di'u sidju
mu'o mi'e .djanytyn.
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