From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Dec 05 04:47:02 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzteV-0004Jn-5W for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:47:02 -0800 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.188]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IzteR-0004J7-Hg for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:46:58 -0800 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id 4so2701321nfv for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:46:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qKjAsIoNvtoRhghy4BJvXnAm5Z7I2iYro6glZVwYmwI=; b=VvBHn//1dLK3n/W2GBVvOIZ0l0EfeMzYSPcpFQ/K8bZGkmmCcCNBYQOFlOEAyxf6UA6qw71dMrOTPCD47rMb4MeEjLi2teHfky7jGCDlm0fx62+XVHqTzYay/gdDWex0ecdP3kfshq3OYh2cW5P0TC/8RbVkq8eeNeLqFeVpu+A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=riZLKSU1kJHEXWRPmVD26EcFMnoYk7yDUi1AHSKMtHyO33MxXu7YYZAMfbGIWpcm+/g8YtRN1gx9BJEc/E6mRLvSrUjDIMQqUgehmV2CRgynPw/6b2HggJtpHjzKBmysDbv6afZpuyVJLothA5fwiCjHXDbJ+9A6kX1gjgWe21M= Received: by 10.86.90.2 with SMTP id n2mr412476fgb.1196858436351; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Dec 2007 04:40:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712050440j226ccfdau36042a946ec45693@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 09:40:36 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Strange modals In-Reply-To: <238526.83132.qm@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <238526.83132.qm@web88011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5844 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 12/4/07, A. PIEKARSKI wrote: > I think the differene between di'o and sedi'o is that {X di'o Y} says that > X occurs at the place where Y is confined, whereas {X sedi'o Y} says > that X occurs at, and is confined to, place Y. They differ as to what is > confined. > > But if > {diklo}: x1 is located in x2 and nowhere else within x3 > then surely > {se diklo} must be: x1 is the only location of x2 within x3 Yes. > and {X di'o Y} must be: X being the only location of Y within... In {X di'o Y}, X has to be a bridi, it can't refer to a location. "X occurs, with Y being confined to some location (presumably the location where X occurs)". If X is a sumti that refers to a location, then you can use {X pe di'o Y} for "X, the only location of Y" mu'o mi'e xorxes