From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 21 07:05:33 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:05:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5jRM-0007OH-HM for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:05:32 -0800 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.185]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5jRB-0007NS-MQ for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:05:29 -0800 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so401789mue.2 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:05:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GjKGZU3dVIe93uvMI7VyyrUzBiPrKBpPTlwOSEbOSDM=; b=t/hJkJUZPcf0q+VerG1RyCTWIeKh9ItNKUgfX4nCctBZhRNPupiEG03Y0QJVJJDh6djCEKxXeEF3GbFxWECWDtw2DdsQcgs0W6Zbw5m82UDpfAk3YgjZD+mU6x2ctNDfUTJw6ABTUsbHqFB95eUwrrOYkofdRkITKjLn/P1Nbb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gzP/2g4LvL0mJ6x3YngzNttjex/ft6Af90fhWU1Lb7GuoOf0dk542+GnHYklYqFAqZ0zbXSvwO0HeaDM236s/Zrc5z/tnY+yASV49bqxGqTxNGtp8rQJbmTFp7JgB0lFhrQ7ZbVtw+3PPjyAxkf3K+pGQXaym2LlV/zvKQgy+gk= Received: by 10.86.30.9 with SMTP id d9mr1208527fgd.52.1198249110723; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.86.13 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:58:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560712210658w7edb9d37ub6fadd555c850e13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:58:30 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Correction please In-Reply-To: <2f91285f0712210307i4aad2c31jc98c7b95fbb566f0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0712210307i4aad2c31jc98c7b95fbb566f0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 5880 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On Dec 21, 2007 8:07 AM, Vid Sintef wrote: > Are these ok? > > Cheesemaking is as much an art as a science > lo nu zbasu cirla cu du lo selylarcu du'i lo selsaske / lo nu zbasu > cirla cu selylarcu du'i lo selsaske "Cheesmaking" would have to be {lo nu cirla zbasu} or {lo nu zbasu lo cirla}. {lo nu zbasu cirla} is something like "being a maker type of cheese". I think you need {du'i lo nu (zy) selsaske}: "It is an art as much as (it is) a science". A more symmetrical possibility is: lo nu cirla zbasu cu du'i gi selylarcu gi selsaske Cheesmaking is equally an art and a science. > She is characteristically a funny person. > ko'a sekai xajmi prenu / ko'a kai xajmi prenu {sekai} would introduce a second, unmentioned characteristic. I'm not sure what {kai} does, as it introduces some unmentioned someone or something with a property. I would prefer: ko'a ckaji lo ka xajmi prenu mu'o mi'e xorxes