From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 21 08:30:40 2007 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5klk-0003DB-1C for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:30:40 -0800 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.183]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J5klc-0003CL-Kv for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:30:39 -0800 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m16so530653waf.20 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:30:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vn0BsFk/TyZkt3gQLUVJL5yW/yW3o0IDJHwpudpmuXg=; b=V71sb/tvmTHz/Zaal2zW9+1YRoLgZz2P92/NVh2Onou5m9Th6szRVAT/0bi8hXyAAVMwS20EHpomlP01cadkjEAgi8Spig/pltZcny+jJrcsPdZIkk+lmbGHphXwMwEMKISxowLjB+GZGxnOA/xWLD2AYEWGb8ZQDwc6MgPfLFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=iFW15l3zl2JlXcE/y4K1Dth0SU5c99o5WOj2cynP6hOa+JX9vdvrw0Cix4gUaMqugRYF4p3scEQC5pj8/tRZFdzUdIRWM+6zQfztsOi6Vm/Ve/9N9Wfn9Y32INjuNHf2LRTzTINQqhkWyfpxqj8sMX70WTmFrIw/rUFl6Fl6oKE= Received: by 10.114.148.1 with SMTP id v1mr1624968wad.21.1198254630024; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.135.9 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:30:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2f91285f0712210830s56621eacxa546cf3f3041da09@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:30:29 +0100 From: "Vid Sintef" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Correction please In-Reply-To: <96f789a60712210658o71af36f7j9d3e73813ae6839f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2f91285f0712210307i4aad2c31jc98c7b95fbb566f0@mail.gmail.com> <96f789a60712210658o71af36f7j9d3e73813ae6839f@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 6 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: picos.picos@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > > She is characteristically a funny person. > > ko'a sekai xajmi prenu / ko'a kai xajmi prenu > > {sekai} would introduce a second, unmentioned characteristic. > I'm not sure what {kai} does, as it introduces some unmentioned > someone or something with a property. I would prefer: > > ko'a ckaji lo ka xajmi prenu > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > She is characteristically a funny person. > > ko'a sekai xajmi prenu / ko'a kai xajmi prenu > > No. This doesn't work. sekai/kai is a modal. It says that she > (characterized/ or characterized by something unspecified) is a f unny > person. You want ko'a ckaji lo ka ce'u xajmi prenu (she is characterized by > the property of her being a funny person). > > --gejyspa What if it's her who characterizes the very property of being a funny person, that is, she is funny in a way that is characteristic to her? How about {ko'a kai ri xajmi prenu}? mu'o mi'e vid