From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jan 03 14:42:02 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAYlG-0005cc-0l for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:42:02 -0800 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.154]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JAYlB-0005cM-Fq for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:42:01 -0800 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so3098677fga.0 for ; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:41:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=eVFtIW5EfdTG8dlrrBMjLwY/qj9zRsSM5DhfJ9DOCYI=; b=OBCGFMVNwfEl47A2YjHrJzC9X7KGQmfrFOwfFJkzz9wJKBqAugsSGB8jDry5vYXZzr1sIZLskvcooAEkSeF/0hh8Bu3jTQmCOiiHBuWED3vlUpXLDqF1sSkgw32V4ttvGK+EKIR4RZ2JXsRYMr/SmdTuQDGlT7esi2gsV0Ryqb0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=k8BbsVyjBcB3hwxtIM4YbmAJRsjg955CgzJRjysloD3/DsRUq7g4E3oX2Y7tcYL14vQSj09obJL73Q++odyJIOeRSPQmyJrejjZrNpYjaxzs4RYkAdICqV4uxzJq0B/7O/ujDt8ApfJhmHyWSBB2HGlS/j6OKNLOmPsCsWReHi8= Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr16079053fgb.75.1199400115401; Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.2? ( [84.110.252.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm13054050fga.2.2008.01.03.14.41.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:41:54 -0800 (PST) Cc: "lojban list" Message-Id: From: Yoav Nir To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Lojban-English full dictionary effort- request for assistance Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:04:56 +0200 References: <702226df0801021635h1e3f1cd1q8e9f848ae1e2a427@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.8 X-Spam-Score-Int: 18 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 134 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners While I definitely appreciate the effort, doesn't this duplicate the efforts of jbovlaste? On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:35 AM, Jon Top Hat Jones wrote: > I have been working on creating a full dictionary between English > and Lojban, excepting place names. > I'm using "Webster's New World Dictionary-Thesaurus" 2nd Edition, > (c)2002 to do this. > > Basically, what I am doing is going through the book, and listing > every entry with it's various meanings, then ascribing the following: > 1: a gismu/ tanru with equivalent meaning, as precise as possible > 2: a lujvo if applicable, built from the tanru from (1) > 3: a fu'ivla for those of who that like such things > > When I have finished the "a"s, I will be formatting it into a HTML- > compatible table and posting it onto my geocities account, or the > Lojban wiki, or both(?). > > The help I am requesting is three-fold: > 1: Help in completing the list- 61,000+ entries to transcibe is > painstaking work, I have yet to finish all the entries in "a" and > haven't even begun the actual translation efforts. > 2: Help in pruning the list, i.e., deciding which English language > entries to disregard, such as Aeneas, Atlanta, Aegean, etc. I am > currently excluding all proper nouns and English grammar words, > although I believe maybe the grammar exclusion was a bad idea.... > 3: Help in translation: Once the table is up on the wiki, I would > appreciate help in translating the various definitions into Lojban. > > Attached is an example of the table format. > > -- > mu'o mi'e .topy'at. > > .i.a'o.e'e ko klama le bende pe denpa bu