From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jan 08 16:05:16 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JCORY-0007CM-6r for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:05:16 -0800 Received: from web56402.mail.re3.yahoo.com ([216.252.111.81]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JCORU-0007Bq-0k for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:05:15 -0800 Received: (qmail 34500 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Jan 2008 00:05:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2DKeuYSHb5xYaJz2Zs4E9X2KBbTklqU6lGErrsj8u/8ygU7Z6f8hpKPrCbtV5uWKn6TRQ1/Q408yYtqTM4Rq055nvc5rGx729eoW0Npjc+nJYFxnNAHsN4+5Svz5P+revcF56r0IrAhJzRjKOglJaht6cmHNe7FS4Yn1khbK+QI=; X-YMail-OSG: fiaTl6sVM1k0leubCwQg2xCecf6viE_JEk4rTirbbC.txh8moTMUIdcvcI5cqByeZiKK3HpYdRmRkP9lBKp_oz8GkUzd_h1phzCZTDNV9LHMX0Vu2cPEFYi7pN98Lfbbre53l7_9n5xggYqYySlQBlcF Received: from [76.237.204.167] by web56402.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:05:01 PST Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:05:01 -0800 (PST) From: Nathaniel Krause Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: towns and countries To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <343420.76244.qm@web88014.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1306825896-1199837101=:33467" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <775125.33467.qm@web56402.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 186 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: nathanielkrause@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners --0-1306825896-1199837101=:33467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "A. PIEKARSKI" wrote: ----- Original Message ---- From: Nathaniel Krause To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 11:13:57 PM Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: towns and countries "A. PIEKARSKI" wrote: ----- Original Message ---- > From: der Mouse > To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 1:06:49 PM > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: towns and countries > By the way, I'd like to point out that "balritygug" and "nolraitrugug" are cmene valsi. They are cmevla which resemble or imply lujvo, but they are still cmevla. I can see {la balritgug} would be OK, but surely not {la jorne nolraitrugug}? I understand you cannot mix gismu and cmevla in a cmene. mu'o mi'e andrus You are quite right that {la jorne .nolraitrugug.} is incorrect. If you pronounce it without a pause after jorne, it would become {la jornenolraitrugug}, which is valid. As far as I know, you can't mix gismu and cmevla in a sumti, except through expediencies such as {me}. Jbofihe agrees. mu'o mi'e .sen. --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-1306825896-1199837101=:33467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "A. PIEKARSKI" <totus@rogers.com> wrote:
----- Original Message ----
From: Nathaniel Krause
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 11:13:57 PM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: towns and countries



"A. PIEKARSKI" wrote:
----- Original Message ----
> From: der Mouse
> To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 1:06:49 PM
> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: towns and countries
>
By the way, I'd like to point out that "balritygug" and "nolraitrugug" are cmene valsi. They are cmevla which resemble or imply lujvo, but they are still cmevla.

I can see {la balritgug} would be OK, but surely not {la jorne nolraitrugug}? I understand you cannot mix gismu and cmevla in a cmene.

mu'o mi'e andrus



You are quite right that {la jorne .nolraitrugug.} is incorrect. If you pronounce it without a pause after jorne, it would become {la jornenolraitrugug}, which is valid. As far as I know, you can't mix gismu and cmevla in a sumti, except through expediencies such as {me}. Jbofihe agrees.

mu'o mi'e .sen.

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