From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 11 03:24:20 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JDHzn-0000Bd-Gk for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:24:20 -0800 Received: from michael.checkpoint.com ([194.29.32.68]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JDHzi-0000BI-Nx for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:24:19 -0800 Received: from [172.31.24.23] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id m0BBOGP8013051 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:24:16 +0200 (IST) Message-Id: From: Yoav Nir To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <97f5058c0801110005i69558f44j54ed3686f3d05776@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: trutca or raltca Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:24:06 +0200 References: <651498.99177.qm@web27701.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <97f5058c0801110005i69558f44j54ed3686f3d05776@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.2 X-Spam-Score-Int: 12 X-Spam-Bar: + X-archive-position: 203 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: yoav.nir@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners Not necessarily. {ralju} means principal/leader/chief/main, and is not necessarily where the seat of government is. New York state is an obvious example where Albany is the trutca, but NYC is the raltca. In Brazil, Brasilia is the trutca, but the raltca is probably Rio. On Jan 11, 2008, at 10:05 AM, Penguino wrote: > [trutca] comes from [turni tcana] "govern-city", and [raltca] from > [ralju > tcana] "principal-city". So they both refer to "capital city". > > "Capital", as in "invested resources", is [se zivle] or [selvle].