From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Jan 11 06:52:53 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JDLFc-0001xJ-Ak for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:52:52 -0800 Received: from sparkle.rodents.montreal.qc.ca ([216.46.5.7] ident=PivNQsttAR54F5jfoqzYyh5yGf38RV84HZZsUKsOymr) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JDLFV-0001wl-7z for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:52:52 -0800 Received: (from mouse@localhost) by Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21342; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:52:37 -0500 (EST) From: der Mouse Message-Id: <200801111452.JAA21342@Sparkle.Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Erik-Conspiracy: There is no Conspiracy - and if there were I wouldn't be part of it anyway. X-Message-Flag: Microsoft: the company who gave us the botnet zombies. Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:47:35 -0500 (EST) To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] trutca or raltca In-Reply-To: References: X-Spam-Score: 0.1 X-Spam-Score-Int: 1 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 207 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mouse@Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners [message A] >> trutca means capitol as in capitol city. Then does raltca mean >> capitol as in lots of money? Lots of money is "capital", not "capitol". So is a jurisdiction's governing city. A "capitol" is a building (generally one wherein a legislature meets), not a city or a bunch of money. > [trutca] comes from [turni tcana] "govern-city", and [raltca] from > [ralju tcana] "principal-city". So they both refer to "capital > city". Really? Wouldn't the raltca of New York State, for example, be New York City rather than Albany? (Of the various glosses for "ralju" in the gismu list, I do see "leader", but the rest of them make me think that is a misleading gloss in this case.) /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse@rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B