From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu Jan 17 07:25:59 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFWcx-0002Fo-6H for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:25:59 -0800 Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.228]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JFWcs-0002F8-Cp for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:25:59 -0800 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i27so424831wxd.25 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:25:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ULMCloZRKbzEm0ThTm51LQ5HAjUzUu+KD3bn+e203uU=; b=NZIv05skr7VgPMkLNpkmvKDctJF2JIRCp+YxVf75UMPMPO4OJt8EbWhFH+R7KpZE1nJHFibSzHlHF4SwkQjDtR6VBIzGLizPW3yBy9Yw2f9h1m/8mxLvFkB8x7sePbmSNVIBxsxDtqJ64aLGGoIWIYCaic6YpDWQSwtBoD9DqRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h5h22RYnYwAbLuKbbiBSpKHquLDD0loPzkKPd5UY3ayX5J1dmJaprNftwFwfbDeedwyVUq6HF2wkVZ6UiTGrNky6XuIX0gUCfofDR/7MVEG6zG3y1Hgbw5VI/ZVg2EsOLnMlF5DEL18qAAYPCm2wJVfaIdMjMnZepkPp7MUQDVw= Received: by 10.142.84.3 with SMTP id h3mr1278910wfb.113.1200583543205; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.144.6 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:25:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <96f789a60801170725n80ec150g1857ac41027843f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:25:43 -0500 From: "Michael Turniansky" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Question about jbovlaste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Spam-Score: -0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 270 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mturniansky@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners > -- > Adam Lopresto > http://cec.wustl.edu/~adam/ > On Jan 16, 2008 5:12 PM, Adam D. Lopresto wrote: > When jbovlaste was created, the lujvo from noralujv were mass imported. > However, most of them suck. Hard. Things like: > > kuncpastu > x1 is a site-got from-lode with gotten-mineral type x2. > I always wondered why the imported-from noralujv has definitions like that, when the actual noralujv itself is written with an actual comprehensible English gloss: kuncpastu: x1=s1=c3=k3 is a mine from which mineral x2=c2=k2 is taken. So, question: when you say that they suck, are you referring to a) the need for the lujvo at all, b) the derivation or c) the way the derivation was (automatically?) glossed into English. --gejyspa