From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Jan 23 04:04:02 2008 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-beginners); Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JHeKo-0002rg-9L for lojban-beginners-real@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:04:02 -0800 Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com ([72.14.214.238]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JHeKk-0002rI-1w for lojban-beginners@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:04:02 -0800 Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 19so1197273hue.21 for ; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:03:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zxSACOjU++efPKWkUQcyGCqr1nCzAAptG9KgitJKc1o=; b=cU1bW3rR4bpz8DJDlqMt1H7gCzdf40yer6Qicl5PDyZgwYdz2zbNVmClHQReWAMS0B29U9Oa0M6WNLg7fFEtP8o4+crwW8qcpgwm/eoi08VWIatb8GldOuf+NygWs8X4ycAUHhX00g49gxwo90N8E4dP8Jlxf7Hu26YzxmA1yJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eA8E7UHrPlLuhLLllF4CmGSQXBNxq151NNZMYKdQwlk15gWBkjrYql9NtvtuYO/IlT5hHqEapsQX47fsNrfqN/+Y9j9oCjacqzVGzfYLbgpyrYOACK1kNCHjn4t2qgxYzYjzdbgCqtU8ucTTFw8RYPVLFApuTqrclHaVt0kLmoY= Received: by 10.86.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr8835160fgb.27.1201089831057; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.59.4 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:03:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560801230403p423a9849lfaf98f18b70ba966@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:03:51 -0300 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?=" To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: "long" and "short" In-Reply-To: <97f5058c0801221748u4d035363if947e6003c0ee51@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <97f5058c0801221748u4d035363if947e6003c0ee51@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 X-Spam-Score-Int: 0 X-Spam-Bar: / X-archive-position: 281 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-beginners-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-beginners@lojban.org X-list: lojban-beginners On 1/22/08, Penguino wrote: > How does one distinguish between long as in spatial dimensions, and long as > in time? In what context? In many cases it would be vu/zu or ve'u/ze'u. I suppose {clani} is by default spatial, but one could also talk about {clani lo ka temci}. >The Chinese have two words for these concepts, and this ambiguity > in English is often a source of confusion ("Will the sausage be long?" to a > waiter, for instance. [zo'o]). Those would be something like: xu le kolbasa cu clani xu ze'u denpa tu'a le kolbasa mu'o mi'e xorxes