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From: Isen hand <isenhand@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: How do you make a rule?
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<<Well, that's the thing, could we?>>


Well, maybe its just me but I couldn’t find anything in The
Complete Lojban Language book on the web that says we can’t. In fact, I couldn’t
find anything that said anything about rule to make rules! So to me it looks as if we can.



<<Add it where and how?>>



Using "pe"?





----- Original Message ----
From: Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@lojban.org
Sent: Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 2:38:06 PM
Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: How do you make a rule?

On 1/29/08, Isen hand <isenhand@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> <<although it is not clear that the property itself is the rule.>>
>
> The x3 place of moi does state, according to the definition of
> moi, that it is a rule so we don't have to assume that. We could just
 say "size"
> and know that the set is ordered by size?

Well, that's the thing, could we?

Definitions were sometimes written sloppily without giving much
thought as to how they would be used, sometimes interpreted
sloppily without taking what the definition says at face value, and
sometimes a bit of both. A rule and a property are somewhat different
things. If a "rule" is what goes in x3, {lo ka ...} is not quite the
 right
thing to use there. If {lo ka ...} is what goes in x3, then describing
 it
as a "rule" is not quite right. In that case the definition should have
been something more like:

 x1 is (n)th among x2 ordered by how much property x3 they have.

> We could then add "smallest first" or "largest
> first" to specify the rule in more detail?

Add it where and how?

mu'o mi'e xorxes








		
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